WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from November 9, 2022

Listener comments!
	10:02pm TDK60: Sam, hello on this night during which I might dream, after not touching any dials.
	🥁 10:03pm WR: Trying to cook here. Play on.
	10:03pm Sam Segal: Welcome, TDK! May your decision not to touch that dial bring you the wildest of dreams!
	10:04pm drowsy: good start Sam!
	10:04pm Sam Segal: WR! I imagine you're not only trying to cook...I imagine you are, in fact, cooking!
	10:04pm Sam Segal: Thank you, drowsy! Great innings to you!
	10:05pm northguineahills: this program shall have no self-recursive artists, otherwise you might as well ride the horse hard and put it away wet (yes, I forgot what I was talking about)....
	10:05pm Dean: Anybody know a good way to thicken Southern greens, other than cooking them forever?
	10:07pm chresti: Arrowroot? Okra
	10:08pm Sam Segal: NGH, are you issuing a prohibition on the meta?
	10:08pm drowsy: I was going to say arrowroot too
	10:08pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam, centaurs
	10:08pm zzz: hey sam hey all this is a cool track!
	10:08pm Sam Segal: Hello, Chef Chresti! Good evening, Coel and zzz!
	10:09pm coelacanth∅: you could thicken with kudzu root. as they're "southern" you should have no trouble finding kudzu.
	10:10pm northguineahills: @sam: sure....
	10:11pm coelacanth∅: it's slightly horse, Sam
	10:11pm rw: Good evening. Sam you sound a little hoarse.
	10:12pm Dean: Don't have arrowroot or kudzu at the moment. I was thinking more like corn starch? Okra would have been marvelous, but I didn't have any.
	10:12pm coelacanth∅: rw!
	10:12pm Dean: Speaking of spacey, any Mitterer tonight?
	10:13pm Dean: We are not always projecting.
	10:13pm rw: Hey coel. Nice to see you!
	10:13pm coelacanth∅: Dean you could use tahini. of course they wont be "southern greens" any more
	10:13pm Dean: Ooooh, tahini sounds fantastic. Or just chickpeas. Great idea, coel.
	10:14pm TDK60: I recall that Mike W song. Fun at the time. Then Mike went gigging with that Iggy guy who's from before the Seventies.
	10:14pm Dean: (Tahini doesn't actually include chickpeas, right? But the suggestion made me think of it.)
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: (or tahini AND chick peas... that's a meal)
	10:15pm Dean: (((Agreed.)))
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Hoarse I am indeed, rw!
	10:17pm Sam Segal: @Dean, still awaiting the arrival of Radio Fractal.
	10:18pm Dean: Brace yourself.
	10:19pm Sam Segal: Dean, can you think of any examples of when we are not projecting? I am struggling to come up with any.
	10:19pm Dean: When we read. Really read.
	10:20pm zzz: ooohh instantly liking this brokeback a a lot. speaking of, i checked out the listings at constellation and green mill for this past sunday, my only night able to see show in chicago when it was there. didn’t make it out but did spend a good 2 hours at the amazing record store dusty groove. did see that doug mccombs and ibises (cool looking band) playing constellation this friday
	10:20pm Dean: When we arrive at mutually acceptable agreements.
	10:21pm Sam Segal: Now, Dean, I'll admit...these are good examples.
	10:22pm Dean: A more mundane example: when we conform to norms like: stop at the Stop sign, wait for the person who got there first, then proceed.
	10:22pm rw: Hope you lose the hoarse soon, Sam.
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: when immersed in music to the point of pure bliss?
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: (possibly revealing that this use of "projecting" is new to me)
	10:23pm Dean: (In a way, that last one is an example of projection. We project upon others our normative inclination to wait for our turn.)
	10:24pm Sam Segal: Coel...another excellent example. Thank you for breaking me out of my solipsism.
	10:25pm Dean: And yet coel's point is precisely that solipsism is a condition in which we are less inclined to project!
	10:25pm Sam Segal: @zzz, Dusty Groove is such a great shop. Have you ever had a chance to go to Bob's Blues & Jazz Mart in Chicago (an outpost of the late great store Jazz Record Mart)?
	10:27pm coelacanth∅: it is??! oh, yes right, sure is!
	10:28pm Sam Segal: @Dean...wait, but a solipsist sees only himself wherever he looks...isn't that a projection?
	10:30pm TDK60: There never was a group called Liquidators Arena? Where's Doug S?
	10:30pm drowsy: that's reflection!
	10:31pm Sam Segal: Touche, drowsy!
	10:33pm Sam Segal: What's the old Teddy Roosevelt quote, TDK? "It is not the critic who counts. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the liquidators arena."
	10:44pm zzz: sam @10:25, no, next time.
	10:44pm Dean: My understanding (caveats aplenty) is that projection is when one ascribes to others one's own mental/emotional lapses or circumstances. Ergo one can't project upon oneself.
	10:46pm Sam Segal: Okay, that makes sense to me, Dean.
	10:47pm Dean: Good. Since it makes sense to you, would you mind explaining it to me?
	10:51pm northguineahills: although you can allow one to mirror your projections back at you albeit as an imperfect facsimile. However, the mirror will be w/o agency and is w/in your own projection ecosystem. Progress? none at all....
	10:53pm drowsy: NGA just summed up my feels on the election.
	10:53pm Sam Segal: Well, you see, Dean, projection is when one ascribes to others one's own mental/emotional lapses or circumstances. Ergo one can't project upon oneself. Does that make sense to you?
	10:54pm Dean: That's just plain nuts.
	10:55pm coelacanth∅: you rang?
	11:05pm northguineahills: classic mike paradinas!
	11:06pm drowsy: I was going to say that this set sounded very paradinas, and that's a good thing.
	11:08pm _Ike_: Hey, it's µ-Ziq.
	11:09pm Sam Segal: This classic IDM stuff still sounds like it was made a century from now. Paradinas is one of the greats.
	11:09pm Sam Segal: Hey, it's you, Ike!
	11:10pm _Ike_: That sorta reminds me of the early days of The Pounding System with Clay Caplice when he just played stuff like that for 2 or 3 hours back in the 90s late at night.
	11:11pm northguineahills: I like how aaron dilloway has been all over the place lately (well, last 20 years).
	11:13pm Sam Segal: I really like the recent collaborative album from Dilloway and Lucrecia Dalt.
	11:15pm doctorjazz: Quick hi, Sam and Segalites! As usual, will catch the whole show in the morning
	11:17pm Sam Segal: Look forward to seeing you on the other side of sunup, Doc!
	11:18pm rw: Evening doctor.
	🥁 11:18pm WR: I think Omoïdé Matsurï means memory festival. I think what y'all be writing about is too complex for me to follw after a long long day of work. I think I'll just continue to listen.
	11:20pm Sam Segal: Thanks for the translation, WR.
	11:21pm doctorjazz: Like Organum!
	11:21pm doctorjazz: Smith has a nice, warm sound!
	11:25pm Sam Segal: I like hearing him with Qasim Naqvi's electronics. Wonder what ever happened to Naqvi's piano trio, Dawn of Midi.
	11:27pm zzz: claudia quintet vibes. i like this band name
	11:39pm northguineahills: i forgot to comment on the wadada leo smith/cyrille/naqvi... beautiful....
	11:42pm Sam Segal: Glad you dug that one, NGH.
	11:45pm doctorjazz: Ok, short but sweet (almost the end), thanks Sam, night all!
	11:48pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Doc!
	11:49pm northguineahills: night, dj jazz!
	11:55pm chresti: enjoing your selections this evening Sam, thanks!
	11:55pm northguineahills: perfect fun as per usual,, sam. now, where' that horse i rode in on?.....
	11:57pm Sam Segal: Thanks for horsing around with me, Chresti and NGH!
	11:57pm northguineahills: RIP Mimi Parker.... thanks for the Low!
	11:58pm rw: So melancholy, on top of the sadness.
	11:59pm rw: Thanks as always Sam. Feel better soon! G'night all.
	12:00am zzz: thanks sam, goodnight all
	12:02am drowsy: Thank you Sam, very fine show.
	🥁 12:02am WR: Thank you, Sam! Thank you! Mimi Parker! Laters all y'all. Onward.
	12:03am coelacanth∅: Gal Costa checked out today. i haven't heard a single Gal Costa song yet. rest in peace Mimi and Gal.
	12:03am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam
	12:54pm doctorjazz: Great Thursday morning listening, thanks Sam!

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November 9, 2022: The Most Obtrusive Thing in the Dream, the Horse on the Tree

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Rider/Horse	Great Innings "Great Innings" by "Rider/Horse"	Feed 'Em Salt	Ever/Never	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Mike Watt	Against the '70s "Against the '70s" by "Mike Watt"	Ball-Hog or Tugboat?	Columbia	0:06:22 (Pop-up)

Brokeback	Will Be Arriving "Will Be Arriving" by "Brokeback"	Brokeback and the Black Rock	Thrill Jockey	0:15:56 (Pop-up)
The Silence	DEX #1 "DEX #1" by "The Silence"	Hark the Silence	Drag City	0:22:16 (Pop-up)
Amefrican Grunges	Amefrican Grunges	Amefrican Grunges	QTV	0:28:56 (Pop-up)
Moin	Knuckle "Knuckle" by "Moin"	Paste	AD 93	0:33:27 (Pop-up)
Timuçin Şahin's Flow State	Homage to Bird	Funk Poems for 'Bird'	New Focus	0:38:01 (Pop-up)
GEORGE	Can You Imagine This? "Can You Imagine This?" by "GEORGE"	Letters to George	Out of Your Head	0:41:31 (Pop-up)
Andy Moor / Thomas Lehn / John Butcher	Tongue	Thermal	Unsounds	0:45:16 (Pop-up)

The Cube of Unknowing	…the black earth…	The Lives of the Saints	Fort Evil Fruit	0:52:41 (Pop-up)
DJ Plead	Louca "Louca" by "DJ Plead"	Quick EP	Livity Sound	0:55:16 (Pop-up)
Hinako Omori	Levitation (Foodman Remix)	a journey with friends...	Houndstooth	0:59:30 (Pop-up)
Hisham Akira Bharoocha	Omoïdé Matsurï	Live at h0l0 01_31_2020	Chaikin	1:02:16 (Pop-up)
µ-Ziq	Catkin and Teasel "Catkin and Teasel" by "µ-Ziq"	Lunatic Harness	Planet Mu	1:05:10 (Pop-up)
Aaron Dilloway	Blue Studies (For Tom Smith)	Blue Studies (For Tom Smith)	Hanson	1:09:31 (Pop-up)
Ulla Straus	creepy girl "creepy girl" by "Ulla Straus"	foam	3 X L	1:14:30 (Pop-up)
Qasim Naqvi, Wadada Leo Smith, Andrew Cyrille	Organum	Two Centuries	Red Hook Ltd.	1:17:18 (Pop-up)
Matt Choboter's Hypnopompia	Knecht	Sleep Inertia	Songlines	1:21:46 (Pop-up)

Tülay German & François Rabbath	Dörtlük	Homage To Nazım Hikmet	Zehra	1:35:22 (Pop-up)
Moundabout	Waste of Peace "Waste of Peace" by "Moundabout"	Flowers Rot, Bring Me Stones	Rocket	1:38:25 (Pop-up)
Wang Zijian	九泉愛 Love in Netherworld	幻滅情歌 Love Songs in Disillusion	WV Sorcerer	1:43:38 (Pop-up)
Mouchoir Étanche	Sécheresse "Sécheresse" by "Mouchoir Étanche"	Une Fille Pétrifiée	Black to Comm	1:48:49 (Pop-up)
Yolabmi	VII "VII" by "Yolabmi"	Before Your Past Lives	Muzan	1:53:20 (Pop-up)
Low	Laser Beam "Laser Beam" by "Low"	Things We Lost in the Fire	Kranky	1:56:49 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	10:02pm TDK60: Sam, hello on this night during which I might dream, after not touching any dials.
	🥁 10:03pm WR: Trying to cook here. Play on.
	10:03pm Sam Segal: Welcome, TDK! May your decision not to touch that dial bring you the wildest of dreams!
	10:04pm drowsy: good start Sam!
	10:04pm Sam Segal: WR! I imagine you're not only trying to cook...I imagine you are, in fact, cooking!
	10:04pm Sam Segal: Thank you, drowsy! Great innings to you!
	10:05pm northguineahills: this program shall have no self-recursive artists, otherwise you might as well ride the horse hard and put it away wet (yes, I forgot what I was talking about)....
	10:05pm Dean: Anybody know a good way to thicken Southern greens, other than cooking them forever?
	10:07pm chresti: Arrowroot? Okra
	10:08pm Sam Segal: NGH, are you issuing a prohibition on the meta?
	10:08pm drowsy: I was going to say arrowroot too
	10:08pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam, centaurs
	10:08pm zzz: hey sam hey all this is a cool track!
	10:08pm Sam Segal: Hello, Chef Chresti! Good evening, Coel and zzz!
	10:09pm coelacanth∅: you could thicken with kudzu root. as they're "southern" you should have no trouble finding kudzu.
	10:10pm northguineahills: @sam: sure....
	10:11pm coelacanth∅: it's slightly horse, Sam
	10:11pm rw: Good evening. Sam you sound a little hoarse.
	10:12pm Dean: Don't have arrowroot or kudzu at the moment. I was thinking more like corn starch? Okra would have been marvelous, but I didn't have any.
	10:12pm coelacanth∅: rw!
	10:12pm Dean: Speaking of spacey, any Mitterer tonight?
	10:13pm Dean: We are not always projecting.
	10:13pm rw: Hey coel. Nice to see you!
	10:13pm coelacanth∅: Dean you could use tahini. of course they wont be "southern greens" any more
	10:13pm Dean: Ooooh, tahini sounds fantastic. Or just chickpeas. Great idea, coel.
	10:14pm TDK60: I recall that Mike W song. Fun at the time. Then Mike went gigging with that Iggy guy who's from before the Seventies.
	10:14pm Dean: (Tahini doesn't actually include chickpeas, right? But the suggestion made me think of it.)
	10:14pm coelacanth∅: (or tahini AND chick peas... that's a meal)
	10:15pm Dean: (((Agreed.)))
	10:17pm Sam Segal: Hoarse I am indeed, rw!
	10:17pm Sam Segal: @Dean, still awaiting the arrival of Radio Fractal.
	10:18pm Dean: Brace yourself.
	10:19pm Sam Segal: Dean, can you think of any examples of when we are not projecting? I am struggling to come up with any.
	10:19pm Dean: When we read. Really read.
	10:20pm zzz: ooohh instantly liking this brokeback a a lot. speaking of, i checked out the listings at constellation and green mill for this past sunday, my only night able to see show in chicago when it was there. didn’t make it out but did spend a good 2 hours at the amazing record store dusty groove. did see that doug mccombs and ibises (cool looking band) playing constellation this friday
	10:20pm Dean: When we arrive at mutually acceptable agreements.
	10:21pm Sam Segal: Now, Dean, I'll admit...these are good examples.
	10:22pm Dean: A more mundane example: when we conform to norms like: stop at the Stop sign, wait for the person who got there first, then proceed.
	10:22pm rw: Hope you lose the hoarse soon, Sam.
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: when immersed in music to the point of pure bliss?
	10:23pm coelacanth∅: (possibly revealing that this use of "projecting" is new to me)
	10:23pm Dean: (In a way, that last one is an example of projection. We project upon others our normative inclination to wait for our turn.)
	10:24pm Sam Segal: Coel...another excellent example. Thank you for breaking me out of my solipsism.
	10:25pm Dean: And yet coel's point is precisely that solipsism is a condition in which we are less inclined to project!
	10:25pm Sam Segal: @zzz, Dusty Groove is such a great shop. Have you ever had a chance to go to Bob's Blues & Jazz Mart in Chicago (an outpost of the late great store Jazz Record Mart)?
	10:27pm coelacanth∅: it is??! oh, yes right, sure is!
	10:28pm Sam Segal: @Dean...wait, but a solipsist sees only himself wherever he looks...isn't that a projection?
	10:30pm TDK60: There never was a group called Liquidators Arena? Where's Doug S?
	10:30pm drowsy: that's reflection!
	10:31pm Sam Segal: Touche, drowsy!
	10:33pm Sam Segal: What's the old Teddy Roosevelt quote, TDK? "It is not the critic who counts. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the liquidators arena."
	10:44pm zzz: sam @10:25, no, next time.
	10:44pm Dean: My understanding (caveats aplenty) is that projection is when one ascribes to others one's own mental/emotional lapses or circumstances. Ergo one can't project upon oneself.
	10:46pm Sam Segal: Okay, that makes sense to me, Dean.
	10:47pm Dean: Good. Since it makes sense to you, would you mind explaining it to me?
	10:51pm northguineahills: although you can allow one to mirror your projections back at you albeit as an imperfect facsimile. However, the mirror will be w/o agency and is w/in your own projection ecosystem. Progress? none at all....
	10:53pm drowsy: NGA just summed up my feels on the election.
	10:53pm Sam Segal: Well, you see, Dean, projection is when one ascribes to others one's own mental/emotional lapses or circumstances. Ergo one can't project upon oneself. Does that make sense to you?
	10:54pm Dean: That's just plain nuts.
	10:55pm coelacanth∅: you rang?
	11:05pm northguineahills: classic mike paradinas!
	11:06pm drowsy: I was going to say that this set sounded very paradinas, and that's a good thing.
	11:08pm _Ike_: Hey, it's µ-Ziq.
	11:09pm Sam Segal: This classic IDM stuff still sounds like it was made a century from now. Paradinas is one of the greats.
	11:09pm Sam Segal: Hey, it's you, Ike!
	11:10pm _Ike_: That sorta reminds me of the early days of The Pounding System with Clay Caplice when he just played stuff like that for 2 or 3 hours back in the 90s late at night.
	11:11pm northguineahills: I like how aaron dilloway has been all over the place lately (well, last 20 years).
	11:13pm Sam Segal: I really like the recent collaborative album from Dilloway and Lucrecia Dalt.
	11:15pm doctorjazz: Quick hi, Sam and Segalites! As usual, will catch the whole show in the morning
	11:17pm Sam Segal: Look forward to seeing you on the other side of sunup, Doc!
	11:18pm rw: Evening doctor.
	🥁 11:18pm WR: I think Omoïdé Matsurï means memory festival. I think what y'all be writing about is too complex for me to follw after a long long day of work. I think I'll just continue to listen.
	11:20pm Sam Segal: Thanks for the translation, WR.
	11:21pm doctorjazz: Like Organum!
	11:21pm doctorjazz: Smith has a nice, warm sound!
	11:25pm Sam Segal: I like hearing him with Qasim Naqvi's electronics. Wonder what ever happened to Naqvi's piano trio, Dawn of Midi.
	11:27pm zzz: claudia quintet vibes. i like this band name
	11:39pm northguineahills: i forgot to comment on the wadada leo smith/cyrille/naqvi... beautiful....
	11:42pm Sam Segal: Glad you dug that one, NGH.
	11:45pm doctorjazz: Ok, short but sweet (almost the end), thanks Sam, night all!
	11:48pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Doc!
	11:49pm northguineahills: night, dj jazz!
	11:55pm chresti: enjoing your selections this evening Sam, thanks!
	11:55pm northguineahills: perfect fun as per usual,, sam. now, where' that horse i rode in on?.....
	11:57pm Sam Segal: Thanks for horsing around with me, Chresti and NGH!
	11:57pm northguineahills: RIP Mimi Parker.... thanks for the Low!
	11:58pm rw: So melancholy, on top of the sadness.
	11:59pm rw: Thanks as always Sam. Feel better soon! G'night all.
	12:00am zzz: thanks sam, goodnight all
	12:02am drowsy: Thank you Sam, very fine show.
	🥁 12:02am WR: Thank you, Sam! Thank you! Mimi Parker! Laters all y'all. Onward.
	12:03am coelacanth∅: Gal Costa checked out today. i haven't heard a single Gal Costa song yet. rest in peace Mimi and Gal.
	12:03am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam
	12:54pm doctorjazz: Great Thursday morning listening, thanks Sam!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from November 9, 2022

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