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Favoriting November 13, 2023: Ed Park, author, "Same Bed Different Dreams"

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Today: Ed Park, author, “Same Bed Different Dreams”

Same Bed Different Dreams, by Ed Park

Linktree for Ed Park

About Ed Park

Welcome to Ed Park’s Many-Layered World (Nov 2, 2023), New York Times review by Hamilton Cain

July 20, 2020 Techtonic, Ed’s first appearance on Techtonic – discussing reading during a pandemic

Californian author Ed Park’s wildly ambitious novel of alt-history Korea (LA Times review by Jonathan Russell Clark, Nov 6, 2023)

Court rules automakers can record and intercept owner text messages (Record.media, Nov 8, 2023)

• Finally: Speaking of “Dreams are everything that’s not online” . . .

“Our cancerous industrialism, reducing all ideological differences to epiphenomena, has generated its own breed of witch doctor. These are men with a genius for control and organization, and the lust to administrate. They propose first to shrink our world to the dimensions of a global village, over which some technological crackpot will erect a geodesic dome to regulate air and light; at the same time the planetary superintendent of schools will feed our children via endless belt into reinforcement-trained boxes where they will be conditioned for their functions in the anthill arcology of the future. The ideal robot, after all, is simply a properly processed human being.”

– Edward Abbey, “Shadows from the Big Woods” (thanks to DJ Irwin Chusid)

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  Ed Park, author, "Same Bed Different Dreams"
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  Interview with Ed Park      
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Suicide  Dream Baby Dream   Favoriting Single  Island Records 
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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtontasms!
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtoniacs!
  6:01pm
David (in London):

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
  6:01pm
Rolando:

Fine Friends Hello Hello
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Techtonicoids!
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Wendy del Formaggio:

Hey Mark and Techtonicians!
  6:03pm
malĥerbo (nl):

Hi Mark ( and techtonoids )!
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PaulRobeson1923:

Hi all! Warm greetings from
Greenpoint, Brooklyn
  6:06pm
Quinn02:

I hate Amazon. Hi Mark and listeners!
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Ike:

Here's what I know about Korean history: they had some amazing hats.

I learned this from a show called Kingdom, a Korean zombie historical drama, which is on an evil streaming service.
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tim:

Hey Mark! I’m very intrigued about the book.
  6:07pm
Rando:

We dropped more bombs on the Korean peninsula in the 50s than we dropped in both theaters of WWII
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chris in the redwoods:

↳ Ike @6:06
i really enjoyed that show, Ike. and agree about the hats.
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Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for joining this evening.
  6:11pm
Tom from Stirling:

Just bought Korean Barbecue flavored popcorn. It's tasty
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Ciggy:

Korea:Queen of Diamonds: Angela Landsbury: Laurence Harvey
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herb.nyc:

This does sound like fun book

Wait- first time ed park was here, I think mark said the 2 are friends. If so, maybe a disclaimer, mark?
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Fredericks:

My dad was a medic in the Korean war. Said it was the dumbest thing he'd ever seen.
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ultradamno:

I really think the punishment for having a K-pop CD should be capped at having to listen to it.
  6:16pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ ultradamno @6:15
Or Leenalchi
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herb.nyc:

From wnyc long time ago, about a novel set in NKorea. Banana pops up in conversation. One sez -“wha? You’ve eaten one? What’s it taste like?” Wow
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Fredericks:

We have an armistice wit Korea, right?
Avatar 🤖 6:28pm
herb.nyc:

Buffalo, NY and Korea?Oh, the Knox initials. New Zealand’s Chris Knox is intrigued
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MarciB:

Thanks Mark - another book to add to my list! I'm still working on "Blood in the Machine". This sounds fascinating and a nice change from my usual non-fiction habit!
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tim:

I’ve never been to Buffalo but everything I’ve heard about sounds like my kind of place.
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herb.nyc:

Chris Knox. Central Korea. (Think central jersey)
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tim:

↳ herb.nyc @6:29
Or the DMZ.
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herb.nyc:

↳ tim @6:30
Doh! Middle Zealand.
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MarciB:

↳ ultradamno @6:15
pity my WFH husband who has to edit Kpop videos! At least I don't have to listen to it - he uses headphones ;)
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Peter from Saranac Lake NY:

Long time listener; occasional commenter. Nice program, Mark.
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herb.nyc:

↳ MarciB @6:31
K pop? Does he know book LARGER THAN LIFE by Maria Sherman. About boy bands, and BTS is in it
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tim:

↳ MarciB @6:29
I’m excited to read it myself. I’m reading a way old Techtonic book. Voices from the Valley. Mark interviewed the authors in 2021 I think. I recommend it.
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Mark Hurst:

↳ Peter from Saranac Lake NY @6:32
Thanks, Peter!
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Mark Hurst:

↳ MarciB @6:29
Thanks, Marci - glad you're enjoying Brian Merchant's book.
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MarciB:

↳ herb.nyc @6:33
I doubt it but now that I know about it, I'll mention it! He works for Billboard and works with what we consider not-our-music (longtime WFMU fans that we are) ;)
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MarciB:

↳ tim @6:34
Excellent, will add it to my list. Thanks Tim!
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tim:

I’ll have to read the book to find out what happened to Reagan!
  6:40pm
Bea:

Thank you for this interview, Mark!! Can’t wait to read this novel - and love the connections you’re making to old and new technologies.
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tim:

↳ MarciB @6:39
My pleasure!
  6:41pm
Rando:

Play some JFA
  6:43pm
Tom from Stirling:

Kia - car-maker based in Seoul
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Mark Hurst:

↳ Bea @6:40
Thanks, Bea!
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vibration:

Had the very same inception-like thought about Taxi Driver, JF, and Hinkley this past week..
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ultradamno:

M*A*S*Hbot 4.bp.blogspot.com...
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herb.nyc:

MASH. did 80million watch the last episode. DuckDuckGo will tell us. / I use my Olivetti lettera 32 manual typewriter once in awhile. Dad bought for sis, 1966(?).
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tim:

Great interview Mark and Ed!
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ultradamno:

The show with the single worst name for an african-american character EVER!
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ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:47
mash.fandom.com...
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chresti:

Thanks Mark and Ed!
  6:48pm
Tom from Stirling:

Mash- the movie. A classic
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tim:

My local library has 2 copies. Both are checked out and there’s a queue to get it. That’s great!
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herb.nyc:

The boy band book LARGER THAN LIFE. It’s *all* boy bands, not Korea centric
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vibration:

MKULTRA was ostensibly started because of alleged brainwashing techniques the Koreans were practicing.
  6:51pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ ultradamno @6:47
Taken right from the movie.
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vibration:

depends on your views on free-will
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DjLorraine:

I think... my brother was at Tony Packos restaurant (as mentioned by Klinger) on the finalé night.
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ultradamno:

↳ Tom from Stirling @6:51
...and the book (noted in the link). Still, though.
  6:56pm
Tom from Stirling:

Chun Hwa Ha Sae Yo
  6:56pm
Ochre Ogre:

Thanks Mark!
  6:57pm
malĥerbo (nl):

🙏
  6:57pm
morphe':

Thanks MH and all !!!!
ps from year was that Abbey quote ????
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vibration:

Lyndon LaRouche springs to mind
  6:57pm
Matt from OK:

That is one of the best Abbey quotes I’ve ever heard. He’s right up there with Bookchin, Illitch, and Freire.
  6:58pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide"
A dream is not a dream until you lose sleep.
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Ciggy:

↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide"
Nice
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tim:

↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide"
Perfect! Thanks again, Mark! I appreciate your weekly effort!
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ultradamno:

↳ Song: "Dream Baby Dream" by "Suicide"
By the way, the recent collection of Martin Rev cassette recording is now available in a few different physical media options martin-rev.bandcamp.com...
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PaulRobeson1923:

A WAKE classic!
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herb.nyc:

Stream baby stream🎶

Thx mark!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone!
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
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