WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from February 12, 2024

Listener comments!
	5:50pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonillites!
	🤖 5:57pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyon Drives!
	🤖 6:00pm David (in London): Evening Mark and assembled Technoids.
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Mark and spaces in Space! Hi to all Earth-bounds!
	🤖 6:02pm Wendy del Formaggio: Oh hi, Mark and Techtonix! Putting away records, happy to be listening.
	🤖 6:02pm MarciB: Hello all - looking forward to the show!
	6:02pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 6:02pm DjLorraine: Mark! Techtonians!
	🤖 6:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and satellites. Not good for astronomy, I tell you what! apod.nasa.gov...
	6:04pm Franco Twinkie: Hey Mark.
	6:04pm P.Welles: Hey Mark and rebels!
	6:05pm P.Welles: it was HAL
	6:07pm mackeral: Hello Techtonic friends!
	🤖 6:08pm MarciB: One of my colleagues posted his fan-boy take on Apple's new Face Jail and he was surprised by my non-gushing reply and facts. I'm not going to change his mind of course but I could not let it stand unchallenged. And he has kids so I'm sure he'll experience the effects first hand.
	6:10pm The Butterman: I can’t wait to hear about the Kessler effect. I LOVE the Kessler effect!
	6:10pm Spikey BXL: Listening live from the future. Hi Mark
	🤖 6:10pm herb.nyc: Hola. I share an obit headline from yest nytimes- Rabbi Matisyahu Salomon, 86, Who Warned of Internet's Dangers, Dies And this excerpt makes me think of mark’s Techtonic: His standing-room only lectures on ethics on Monday nights were done with love
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Handy, DiL, Bas, Wendy, Marci, chresti, DjLorraine, KfHP, Franco, P.W, mackeral, Butterman, Spikey, and herb! Thanks for joining.
	6:12pm dale: surprised she can see the aurora so close to the u.s. border.
	6:13pm joe mulligan: never thought about how LEO constellations would make light pollution in the heavens but makes sense. you can't look at the sky now without seeing a satellite go by slowly
	6:13pm ultradamno: I saw today that Musk has reassured people that most people he wants to send to Mars will die.
	6:13pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:03 What a photograph!
	6:14pm P.Welles: We have to realize Musk is insane.
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:08 Someday maybe he'll look back and think - well, Marci tried to warn me...
	6:14pm Sam: LED lighting is such a horrible scourge. For example in liberty state park they replaced the lights with ultra bright LEDs that obliterate the skyline, and make it impossible to take night photos or just enjoy the natural darkness.
	🤖 6:15pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Song: "Interview with Sam Lawler" OMG! I was just having a conversation today with someone whose story is pretty much what that bumper sticker says.
	🤖 6:15pm herb.nyc: Aside- I hear SpaceX and i think of this New Yorker bk review: A City on Mars, by Kelly and Zach Weinersmith (Penguin Press). This playful "homesteader's guide" to space settlement presents a bleak view of the pursuit, arguing that "an Earth with climate change and nuclear war ... is still a way better place than Mars." The authors examine the increasingly popular dream of a multi-planetary human race with a skepticism informed by ethical, logistical, and legal anxieties. They warn that the Martian landscape is whipped by "poison storms"; that space exploration without clearer laws could escalate into a "zero-sum scramble" for resources; and that science has barely grazed the unknowns of long-term extraterrestrial habitation.
	6:17pm dale: ↳ Sam @6:14 they mess up your shortwave reception too. not as bad as wi fi though.
	6:17pm Franco Twinkie: Anyone who's seen Invasion Of The body Snatchers knows all police are dupes of the space aliens.
	🤖 6:17pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Sam @6:14 I'm so mixed about LED public lighting. It emits less light pollution than the cobra-head street lights, but it also creates many dark areas, which are unsettling to vulnerable folks (like women, for example), who may not want to walk on a street with a shit-ton of dark areas.
	6:17pm HyperDose: This is how Umbrella Corp started
	6:17pm ultradamno: Apple Vision Pro wearing while driving Tesla Cybertruck www.cartoq.com...
	6:18pm P.Welles: INSANE!
	6:18pm joe mulligan: 40,000 satellites makes it tough to avoid collisions
	6:19pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: This scares the begeeeebers outta ME
	🤖 6:19pm MarciB: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:14 That's what I tell myself - call me - call us- Cassandra
	🤖 6:19pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Sam @6:14 Agreed. Places are going nuts with those things. I can be a quarter mile away from some bank in town and it's bright enough to read by. Yark!
	🤖 6:19pm herb.nyc: ↳ joe mulligan @6:18 Send up specialized satellites as crossing guards
	6:19pm Sam: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:17 The ones I’ve seen around here are so bright they completely obliterate dark areas and can be seen from almost a mile away. You can’t even look directly at them. More and more car headlights are like that too.
	6:20pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:19 Call me Ishmael. Call me Cassandra. Call me Ishmandra.
	6:20pm Sam: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:20 Shirley you must be joking.
	6:22pm coelacanth∅: i would also like all earth's resources used to create and fly these satellites back on/in earth please.
	6:22pm joe mulligan: ↳ herb.nyc @6:19 ha!
	6:23pm Fredericks: I am arriving late, has anyone mentioned not having lights on the satellites?
	🤖 6:23pm MarciB: And my nephew keeps going on about aliens - and I keep saying "Starlink"!!
	6:23pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: We have learned nothing from what we have done to the ocean. UGH
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Fredericks @6:23 The satellites are reflecting sunlight.
	🤖 6:24pm chresti: Meteorite hit someone before?
	🤖 6:24pm Bas NL: Here's some numbers on Starlink satellites: nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov... 95% of 260kg burns up.. leaves 13kg/28lbs to land..
	🤖 6:24pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Sam @6:19 That also sounds awful! The ones used in a town near me are pretty dim and emit a cold, kinda wavy and weird light. I LOATHE the LED headlights. Totally blinding, even on lo-beams. Boo hiss.
	6:24pm ultradamno: The more I listen to this show the more I think the frat guys in 80s movies that yelled NERDS! were right.
	6:25pm P.Welles: Its close to geoengineering
	6:25pm The Butterman: Mark, these satellites can’t coal roll you so nothing to worry about, relax!
	6:25pm Sam: ↳ ultradamno @6:24 Ha!
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: ↳ The Butterman @6:25 Don't give Musk any ideas
	6:26pm ultradamno: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:24 Awful. It took while for me to pick up on the fact all these trucks weren't driving with their high beams on.
	6:26pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: We are going to BREAK SPACE!!!
	🤖 6:26pm Ken From Hyde Park: I'll bet actual money that Musk has people working on a "space vacuum" to clean up the mess things go Kessler. Then he'll have NASA give him billions to fund the scheme.
	6:27pm Sam: Now they'll be able to sell us special mind-reading hard hats to protect us from the burning satellite shrapnel.
	6:27pm The Butterman: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:25 Sorry I’m so obsessed with you having had that terrible upsetting experience.
	6:27pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Sam @6:27 I thought that was what tin foil was for.
	6:27pm P.Welles: brain chips too
	🤖 6:28pm Will thee Sound Guy: Sorry I'm late... Hi Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:29pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: Great interview Mark. Superb
	6:29pm coelacanth∅: hey Will!
	6:29pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Reagan NY ZEN RN @6:29 Thanks!
	🤖 6:29pm Will thee Sound Guy: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:29 Hi coelacanth!
	6:30pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @6:28 Welcome, Will!
	6:30pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: There it is Butterman!
	🤖 6:30pm Wendy del Formaggio: Vermont, which has horrible internet options, has started developing Community Broadband. The State Legislature passed a bill about it. Read more here: publicservice.vermont.gov...
	🤖 6:31pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:30 Here's their mission: "The board will develop policies and programs to accelerate community efforts that advance the State’s goal of achieving universal access to reliable, high-quality, affordable, fixed broadband achieving speeds of at least 100 Mbps symmetrical."
	🤖 6:32pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:31 And it will be PUBLICLY owned, so none of us has to deal with those Comcast fuckers.
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: "Runaway collisional cascade" - my favorite phrase of this interview, I think.
	🤖 6:33pm Wendy del Formaggio: Debris? I think that's called... paging Devo... SPACE JUNK!
	6:33pm Spikey BXL: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:32 Prog song title claxon
	6:33pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Spikey BXL @6:33 Someone get a memo to Mandl!
	6:33pm Fredericks: Kessler's Syndrome? I had thought about just space junk trapping us on the planet and preventing space exploration. Didn't think about putting stuff up there on purpose.
	6:33pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:32 that was Doug Shulkind's first prog band in high school's name
	🤖 6:34pm DjLorraine: Space shrapnel for sure
	6:35pm ultradamno: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:33 Space junk was a plot point in a Walking Dead arc...as were nuclear reactors, the catastrophes that will continue after climate change kills us.
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: "Attempt to clean up space junk foiled when cleanup target hit by even more space junk" (Aug 24, 2023): futurism.com...
	6:36pm Fredericks: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:35 Precisely.
	6:36pm Spikey BXL: Debrishelle, the least know voice in The Supremes
	6:37pm coelacanth∅: then we can send musk up, with a broom.
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:35 Who could have predicted that sending up space junk to clean up space junk would be slammed into by space junk, creating more space junk?
	6:39pm P-90: Maybe we’re “terrorized and depressed quite enough” but don’t let that stop you
	6:39pm Fredericks: Dilution is the solution to pollution.
	🤖 6:40pm tim: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:37 Sounds like there is only one appropriate outro song.
	🤖 6:40pm tim: Hey Mark and everyone!
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: ↳ tim @6:40 What do you have in mind?
	🤖 6:41pm DjLorraine: ↳ tim @6:40 Space trucking?
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: Beware: Debris from high altitude Rapid Unintentional Disassembly.
	6:41pm ultradamno: www.universetoday.com...
	6:41pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tim @6:40 DEVO!
	🤖 6:41pm herb.nyc: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:37 A truck per hour? Maybe LES Ecology Center can do w’end ewaste pickups
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: I guess we could accidentally end up in an ad hoc Dyson sphere. We'd just be on the wrong side of the sunlight.
	🤖 6:41pm tim: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:40 Devo - Space Junk!
	🤖 6:42pm herb.nyc: Outro song- Pavement “debris slide”. (Ba ba bada ba…)
	🤖 6:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: 48.5 tons of meteors each day. science.nasa.gov...
	6:42pm ultradamno: I saw, I believe it was The Wahines, cover Space Truckin' once. I don't think they ever recorded it.
	🤖 6:42pm herb.nyc: Magnetic Fields? They play 6(?) shows in early April at NYC’s town hall
	6:43pm dale: we need andy griffith's salvage 1 more than ever.
	6:43pm headcleaner: Yikes. Sounds like, yet again, we find ourselves trapped in a post-DK Jello Biafra song - en.wikipedia.org...
	6:44pm Spikey BXL: Satellite of love, is out the question?
	6:44pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:42 There are a couple of near half hour Deep Purple versions on the video hosting site that shall not be named...if you really want to horn in on Dave's time (he loves Deep Purple, so he'd be cool with it)
	6:44pm joe mulligan: NDA? of course that's the space x way
	6:45pm ultradamno: ↳ Spikey BXL @6:44 Sex Pistols' Satellite?
	6:45pm The Butterman: What a collection of assholes.
	🤖 6:46pm Will thee Sound Guy: Yes, the starlink causes streaks... Total crap for astronomy
	🤖 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: Microplastic aerosols!
	🤖 6:46pm DjLorraine: ↳ ultradamno @6:44 C'mon, c'mon
	6:48pm Deanna: Someone just lie to me and tell me everything is going to be okay!
	6:49pm dale: if verizon and spectrum and optimum don't want to run miles of cable to one customer, what are you supposed to do?
	6:50pm Buddha of Suburbia: Hey. Dale! This is your wheelhouse!!
	🤖 6:50pm DjLorraine: Thanks Sam. I can hear in your voice the intelligence and the frustration. Thanks again
	6:50pm The Butterman: Wonderful work Mark and Sam! Thank you!
	6:50pm mackeral: Thanks Sam and Mark!
	🤖 6:50pm Handy Haversack: Good and necessary talk, Mark. I'm sure our tireless and caring civil servants will get right on this when we bring it to their attention.
	6:51pm coelacanth∅: Thank you Sam!
	🤖 6:51pm NotARealDoctor: wow excited for our new magnetic atmosphere and unusable compasses!
	6:51pm ultradamno: Hitch a ride on a rogue planet outta here www.universal-sci.com...
	6:51pm joe mulligan: ↳ Song: "Interview with Sam Lawler" one of the more shocking and eye opening interviews you've done here Mark, thanks for this
	6:52pm P-90: Thanks, Sam! And congratulations Mark, you didn’t slip and say “University of Vagina” even once
	🤖 6:52pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:50 Make LEO Great Again!
	🤖 6:53pm tim: Thank you, Mark!
	🤖 6:54pm chresti: Need a very big net to catch all the falling debris
	🤖 6:55pm PaulRobeson1924: We can’t yet clean plastic bottle caps from washing up at the beach on Earth! U think we can clean up space junk? Never
	6:55pm joe_rosevear: Great show. Some interesting points were raised. The chain reaction effect from debris makes sense--how could it not happen? Of course, the "solution" is to put armor plating on the satellites. Ha!
	🤖 6:55pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Sam!
	6:55pm joe mulligan: It's gonna get harder to make that mass exodus into Mrs
	6:56pm joe mulligan: *Mars
	🤖 6:56pm tim: Dudes! Check it out! Bring back Reagan’s STAR WARS! just think about it!
	6:56pm Fredericks: Launch space magnets chained to Earth. Reel them in when they're full.
	🤖 6:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:55 When Tide Pods® dissolve, they become microplastic.
	6:57pm P-90: If the Pentagon isn’t rushing a “Starlink killer” technology into development, they should be.
	6:57pm mackeral: gonna spread the Word
	🤖 6:57pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:56 I saw a seagull carrying the bottom of some kind of shoe in it’s beak today
	6:57pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm herb.nyc: To Elon, plz create a black hole so that we can put it into space. It will grab all space junk and save the day. Thx. / another excellent and sobering show, thx!
	6:58pm Troy: ↳ Song: "Space Junk" by "Devo" I was waiting for this song.
	6:58pm mistercaz: ↳ Song: "Mark's comments" thanks. Need to re-listen of course, without Lester Holt in the background..
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm tim: Since all the other idea put forth are jackass ideas, maybe de-evolution might work.
	🤖 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Your shareholder value is skyrocketing into orbit!
	🤖 6:59pm herb.nyc: ↳ mistercaz @6:58 I saw Lester holt in west village walking a dog. I said hi
	🤖 6:59pm Handy Haversack: XTC's "Don't Need Another Satellite" might have also worked!
	🤖 7:00pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Mark Hurst, Sam Lawler, and all the accu peeps!!
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	🤖 7:28pm Ken From Hyde Park: "Move fast and break things." Where have I heard that before?
	6:39pm VantuckyEd: "Move fast and Break the world" is more like it.
	6:46pm VantuckyEd: Ah yes, part of my webmaster gig is catching phishers who pose as my client, an employment agency.
	6:49pm VantuckyEd: Thanks for the book info. I'll have to pick it up.

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from February 12, 2024

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February 12, 2024: Astronomer Sam Lawler on the danger of Starlink satellites

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Astronomer Sam Lawler on the danger of Starlink satellites
Tomaš Dvořák	Game Boy Tune "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"	Machinarium Soundtrack	n/a
	Mark's intro "Mark's intro"
	Interview with Sam Lawler "Interview with Sam Lawler"			0:06:46 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
	Mark's comments "Mark's comments"			0:46:43 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Devo	Space Junk "Space Junk" by "Devo"	Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!	Warner Bros.	0:54:11 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	5:50pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonillites!
	🤖 5:57pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyon Drives!
	🤖 6:00pm David (in London): Evening Mark and assembled Technoids.
	🤖 6:01pm Bas NL: Mark and spaces in Space! Hi to all Earth-bounds!
	🤖 6:02pm Wendy del Formaggio: Oh hi, Mark and Techtonix! Putting away records, happy to be listening.
	🤖 6:02pm MarciB: Hello all - looking forward to the show!
	6:02pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 6:02pm DjLorraine: Mark! Techtonians!
	🤖 6:03pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and satellites. Not good for astronomy, I tell you what! apod.nasa.gov...
	6:04pm Franco Twinkie: Hey Mark.
	6:04pm P.Welles: Hey Mark and rebels!
	6:05pm P.Welles: it was HAL
	6:07pm mackeral: Hello Techtonic friends!
	🤖 6:08pm MarciB: One of my colleagues posted his fan-boy take on Apple's new Face Jail and he was surprised by my non-gushing reply and facts. I'm not going to change his mind of course but I could not let it stand unchallenged. And he has kids so I'm sure he'll experience the effects first hand.
	6:10pm The Butterman: I can’t wait to hear about the Kessler effect. I LOVE the Kessler effect!
	6:10pm Spikey BXL: Listening live from the future. Hi Mark
	🤖 6:10pm herb.nyc: Hola. I share an obit headline from yest nytimes- Rabbi Matisyahu Salomon, 86, Who Warned of Internet's Dangers, Dies And this excerpt makes me think of mark’s Techtonic: His standing-room only lectures on ethics on Monday nights were done with love
	6:11pm Mark Hurst: Hi ultra, Handy, DiL, Bas, Wendy, Marci, chresti, DjLorraine, KfHP, Franco, P.W, mackeral, Butterman, Spikey, and herb! Thanks for joining.
	6:12pm dale: surprised she can see the aurora so close to the u.s. border.
	6:13pm joe mulligan: never thought about how LEO constellations would make light pollution in the heavens but makes sense. you can't look at the sky now without seeing a satellite go by slowly
	6:13pm ultradamno: I saw today that Musk has reassured people that most people he wants to send to Mars will die.
	6:13pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:03 What a photograph!
	6:14pm P.Welles: We have to realize Musk is insane.
	6:14pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:08 Someday maybe he'll look back and think - well, Marci tried to warn me...
	6:14pm Sam: LED lighting is such a horrible scourge. For example in liberty state park they replaced the lights with ultra bright LEDs that obliterate the skyline, and make it impossible to take night photos or just enjoy the natural darkness.
	🤖 6:15pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Song: "Interview with Sam Lawler" OMG! I was just having a conversation today with someone whose story is pretty much what that bumper sticker says.
	🤖 6:15pm herb.nyc: Aside- I hear SpaceX and i think of this New Yorker bk review: A City on Mars, by Kelly and Zach Weinersmith (Penguin Press). This playful "homesteader's guide" to space settlement presents a bleak view of the pursuit, arguing that "an Earth with climate change and nuclear war ... is still a way better place than Mars." The authors examine the increasingly popular dream of a multi-planetary human race with a skepticism informed by ethical, logistical, and legal anxieties. They warn that the Martian landscape is whipped by "poison storms"; that space exploration without clearer laws could escalate into a "zero-sum scramble" for resources; and that science has barely grazed the unknowns of long-term extraterrestrial habitation.
	6:17pm dale: ↳ Sam @6:14 they mess up your shortwave reception too. not as bad as wi fi though.
	6:17pm Franco Twinkie: Anyone who's seen Invasion Of The body Snatchers knows all police are dupes of the space aliens.
	🤖 6:17pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Sam @6:14 I'm so mixed about LED public lighting. It emits less light pollution than the cobra-head street lights, but it also creates many dark areas, which are unsettling to vulnerable folks (like women, for example), who may not want to walk on a street with a shit-ton of dark areas.
	6:17pm HyperDose: This is how Umbrella Corp started
	6:17pm ultradamno: Apple Vision Pro wearing while driving Tesla Cybertruck www.cartoq.com...
	6:18pm P.Welles: INSANE!
	6:18pm joe mulligan: 40,000 satellites makes it tough to avoid collisions
	6:19pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: This scares the begeeeebers outta ME
	🤖 6:19pm MarciB: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:14 That's what I tell myself - call me - call us- Cassandra
	🤖 6:19pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Sam @6:14 Agreed. Places are going nuts with those things. I can be a quarter mile away from some bank in town and it's bright enough to read by. Yark!
	🤖 6:19pm herb.nyc: ↳ joe mulligan @6:18 Send up specialized satellites as crossing guards
	6:19pm Sam: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:17 The ones I’ve seen around here are so bright they completely obliterate dark areas and can be seen from almost a mile away. You can’t even look directly at them. More and more car headlights are like that too.
	6:20pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:19 Call me Ishmael. Call me Cassandra. Call me Ishmandra.
	6:20pm Sam: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:20 Shirley you must be joking.
	6:22pm coelacanth∅: i would also like all earth's resources used to create and fly these satellites back on/in earth please.
	6:22pm joe mulligan: ↳ herb.nyc @6:19 ha!
	6:23pm Fredericks: I am arriving late, has anyone mentioned not having lights on the satellites?
	🤖 6:23pm MarciB: And my nephew keeps going on about aliens - and I keep saying "Starlink"!!
	6:23pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: We have learned nothing from what we have done to the ocean. UGH
	6:24pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Fredericks @6:23 The satellites are reflecting sunlight.
	🤖 6:24pm chresti: Meteorite hit someone before?
	🤖 6:24pm Bas NL: Here's some numbers on Starlink satellites: nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov... 95% of 260kg burns up.. leaves 13kg/28lbs to land..
	🤖 6:24pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Sam @6:19 That also sounds awful! The ones used in a town near me are pretty dim and emit a cold, kinda wavy and weird light. I LOATHE the LED headlights. Totally blinding, even on lo-beams. Boo hiss.
	6:24pm ultradamno: The more I listen to this show the more I think the frat guys in 80s movies that yelled NERDS! were right.
	6:25pm P.Welles: Its close to geoengineering
	6:25pm The Butterman: Mark, these satellites can’t coal roll you so nothing to worry about, relax!
	6:25pm Sam: ↳ ultradamno @6:24 Ha!
	6:25pm Mark Hurst: ↳ The Butterman @6:25 Don't give Musk any ideas
	6:26pm ultradamno: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:24 Awful. It took while for me to pick up on the fact all these trucks weren't driving with their high beams on.
	6:26pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: We are going to BREAK SPACE!!!
	🤖 6:26pm Ken From Hyde Park: I'll bet actual money that Musk has people working on a "space vacuum" to clean up the mess things go Kessler. Then he'll have NASA give him billions to fund the scheme.
	6:27pm Sam: Now they'll be able to sell us special mind-reading hard hats to protect us from the burning satellite shrapnel.
	6:27pm The Butterman: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:25 Sorry I’m so obsessed with you having had that terrible upsetting experience.
	6:27pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Sam @6:27 I thought that was what tin foil was for.
	6:27pm P.Welles: brain chips too
	🤖 6:28pm Will thee Sound Guy: Sorry I'm late... Hi Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:29pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: Great interview Mark. Superb
	6:29pm coelacanth∅: hey Will!
	6:29pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Reagan NY ZEN RN @6:29 Thanks!
	🤖 6:29pm Will thee Sound Guy: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:29 Hi coelacanth!
	6:30pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Will thee Sound Guy @6:28 Welcome, Will!
	6:30pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: There it is Butterman!
	🤖 6:30pm Wendy del Formaggio: Vermont, which has horrible internet options, has started developing Community Broadband. The State Legislature passed a bill about it. Read more here: publicservice.vermont.gov...
	🤖 6:31pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:30 Here's their mission: "The board will develop policies and programs to accelerate community efforts that advance the State’s goal of achieving universal access to reliable, high-quality, affordable, fixed broadband achieving speeds of at least 100 Mbps symmetrical."
	🤖 6:32pm Wendy del Formaggio: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:31 And it will be PUBLICLY owned, so none of us has to deal with those Comcast fuckers.
	6:32pm Mark Hurst: "Runaway collisional cascade" - my favorite phrase of this interview, I think.
	🤖 6:33pm Wendy del Formaggio: Debris? I think that's called... paging Devo... SPACE JUNK!
	6:33pm Spikey BXL: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:32 Prog song title claxon
	6:33pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Spikey BXL @6:33 Someone get a memo to Mandl!
	6:33pm Fredericks: Kessler's Syndrome? I had thought about just space junk trapping us on the planet and preventing space exploration. Didn't think about putting stuff up there on purpose.
	6:33pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:32 that was Doug Shulkind's first prog band in high school's name
	🤖 6:34pm DjLorraine: Space shrapnel for sure
	6:35pm ultradamno: ↳ Wendy del Formaggio @6:33 Space junk was a plot point in a Walking Dead arc...as were nuclear reactors, the catastrophes that will continue after climate change kills us.
	6:35pm Mark Hurst: "Attempt to clean up space junk foiled when cleanup target hit by even more space junk" (Aug 24, 2023): futurism.com...
	6:36pm Fredericks: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:35 Precisely.
	6:36pm Spikey BXL: Debrishelle, the least know voice in The Supremes
	6:37pm coelacanth∅: then we can send musk up, with a broom.
	6:37pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:35 Who could have predicted that sending up space junk to clean up space junk would be slammed into by space junk, creating more space junk?
	6:39pm P-90: Maybe we’re “terrorized and depressed quite enough” but don’t let that stop you
	6:39pm Fredericks: Dilution is the solution to pollution.
	🤖 6:40pm tim: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:37 Sounds like there is only one appropriate outro song.
	🤖 6:40pm tim: Hey Mark and everyone!
	6:40pm Mark Hurst: ↳ tim @6:40 What do you have in mind?
	🤖 6:41pm DjLorraine: ↳ tim @6:40 Space trucking?
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: Beware: Debris from high altitude Rapid Unintentional Disassembly.
	6:41pm ultradamno: www.universetoday.com...
	6:41pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tim @6:40 DEVO!
	🤖 6:41pm herb.nyc: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:37 A truck per hour? Maybe LES Ecology Center can do w’end ewaste pickups
	🤖 6:41pm Handy Haversack: I guess we could accidentally end up in an ad hoc Dyson sphere. We'd just be on the wrong side of the sunlight.
	🤖 6:41pm tim: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:40 Devo - Space Junk!
	🤖 6:42pm herb.nyc: Outro song- Pavement “debris slide”. (Ba ba bada ba…)
	🤖 6:42pm Ken From Hyde Park: 48.5 tons of meteors each day. science.nasa.gov...
	6:42pm ultradamno: I saw, I believe it was The Wahines, cover Space Truckin' once. I don't think they ever recorded it.
	🤖 6:42pm herb.nyc: Magnetic Fields? They play 6(?) shows in early April at NYC’s town hall
	6:43pm dale: we need andy griffith's salvage 1 more than ever.
	6:43pm headcleaner: Yikes. Sounds like, yet again, we find ourselves trapped in a post-DK Jello Biafra song - en.wikipedia.org...
	6:44pm Spikey BXL: Satellite of love, is out the question?
	6:44pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:42 There are a couple of near half hour Deep Purple versions on the video hosting site that shall not be named...if you really want to horn in on Dave's time (he loves Deep Purple, so he'd be cool with it)
	6:44pm joe mulligan: NDA? of course that's the space x way
	6:45pm ultradamno: ↳ Spikey BXL @6:44 Sex Pistols' Satellite?
	6:45pm The Butterman: What a collection of assholes.
	🤖 6:46pm Will thee Sound Guy: Yes, the starlink causes streaks... Total crap for astronomy
	🤖 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: Microplastic aerosols!
	🤖 6:46pm DjLorraine: ↳ ultradamno @6:44 C'mon, c'mon
	6:48pm Deanna: Someone just lie to me and tell me everything is going to be okay!
	6:49pm dale: if verizon and spectrum and optimum don't want to run miles of cable to one customer, what are you supposed to do?
	6:50pm Buddha of Suburbia: Hey. Dale! This is your wheelhouse!!
	🤖 6:50pm DjLorraine: Thanks Sam. I can hear in your voice the intelligence and the frustration. Thanks again
	6:50pm The Butterman: Wonderful work Mark and Sam! Thank you!
	6:50pm mackeral: Thanks Sam and Mark!
	🤖 6:50pm Handy Haversack: Good and necessary talk, Mark. I'm sure our tireless and caring civil servants will get right on this when we bring it to their attention.
	6:51pm coelacanth∅: Thank you Sam!
	🤖 6:51pm NotARealDoctor: wow excited for our new magnetic atmosphere and unusable compasses!
	6:51pm ultradamno: Hitch a ride on a rogue planet outta here www.universal-sci.com...
	6:51pm joe mulligan: ↳ Song: "Interview with Sam Lawler" one of the more shocking and eye opening interviews you've done here Mark, thanks for this
	6:52pm P-90: Thanks, Sam! And congratulations Mark, you didn’t slip and say “University of Vagina” even once
	🤖 6:52pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:50 Make LEO Great Again!
	🤖 6:53pm tim: Thank you, Mark!
	🤖 6:54pm chresti: Need a very big net to catch all the falling debris
	🤖 6:55pm PaulRobeson1924: We can’t yet clean plastic bottle caps from washing up at the beach on Earth! U think we can clean up space junk? Never
	6:55pm joe_rosevear: Great show. Some interesting points were raised. The chain reaction effect from debris makes sense--how could it not happen? Of course, the "solution" is to put armor plating on the satellites. Ha!
	🤖 6:55pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks Sam!
	6:55pm joe mulligan: It's gonna get harder to make that mass exodus into Mrs
	6:56pm joe mulligan: *Mars
	🤖 6:56pm tim: Dudes! Check it out! Bring back Reagan’s STAR WARS! just think about it!
	6:56pm Fredericks: Launch space magnets chained to Earth. Reel them in when they're full.
	🤖 6:56pm Ken From Hyde Park: ↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:55 When Tide Pods® dissolve, they become microplastic.
	6:57pm P-90: If the Pentagon isn’t rushing a “Starlink killer” technology into development, they should be.
	6:57pm mackeral: gonna spread the Word
	🤖 6:57pm PaulRobeson1924: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:56 I saw a seagull carrying the bottom of some kind of shoe in it’s beak today
	6:57pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm herb.nyc: To Elon, plz create a black hole so that we can put it into space. It will grab all space junk and save the day. Thx. / another excellent and sobering show, thx!
	6:58pm Troy: ↳ Song: "Space Junk" by "Devo" I was waiting for this song.
	6:58pm mistercaz: ↳ Song: "Mark's comments" thanks. Need to re-listen of course, without Lester Holt in the background..
	🤖 6:58pm chresti: Thanks Mark!
	🤖 6:58pm tim: Since all the other idea put forth are jackass ideas, maybe de-evolution might work.
	🤖 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mark. Your shareholder value is skyrocketing into orbit!
	🤖 6:59pm herb.nyc: ↳ mistercaz @6:58 I saw Lester holt in west village walking a dog. I said hi
	🤖 6:59pm Handy Haversack: XTC's "Don't Need Another Satellite" might have also worked!
	🤖 7:00pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Mark Hurst, Sam Lawler, and all the accu peeps!!
	7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	🤖 7:28pm Ken From Hyde Park: "Move fast and break things." Where have I heard that before?
	6:39pm VantuckyEd: "Move fast and Break the world" is more like it.
	6:46pm VantuckyEd: Ah yes, part of my webmaster gig is catching phishers who pose as my client, an employment agency.
	6:49pm VantuckyEd: Thanks for the book info. I'll have to pick it up.

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