WFMU: The Media Squat with Douglas Rushkoff: Playlist from September 28, 2009

Listener comments!
	6:01pm Charles-A.: Welcome to The Media Squat. where Douglas Rushkoff … shares. Pull up a square of tile and sit your butts down..
	6:02pm Charles-A.: I got a declarative statement right here. :-) Oy, the Canadian dollar, the Japanese Yen, the Chinese Reminimbi, the Euro and most of the other currencies are faring depressingly well against the US dollar. I'm a Canadian watching my US real estate holdings shrink almost as badly as they did during the mortgage debacle. <sigh>
	6:04pm Charles-A.: I was watching, and it was fun.
	6:06pm Charles-A.: What about Stewart Brand? :-)
	6:06pm david: theres no such thing as progression. maintaining our documentation of exploration is the greatest answer.
	6:08pm Charles-A.: Well, that's progress for you. :-)
	6:08pm chom: the concrete I'm sitting on is cold, Inc.
	6:09pm felipe: I think it is possible to use BRAND in a subversive and positive way. I ran an artists run project in chile called "Galeria Chilena" please check this web site: http://www.lanubeloca.org/Galeria%20Chilena%20Home.html our gallery was NOMADIC, it logo was a heart that changed with each exhibition.
	6:09pm Charles-A.: Watch out for falling, flailing tautologies.
	6:10pm david: great show by the way!! but isnt that an arrogant way to look at it. progress mainly about change isnt it?
	6:11pm Charles-A.: My band in Europe didn't have a fixed name. We'd call ourselves by the number of musicians e were able to rouse at the local conservatory.
	6:13pm Charles-A.: Progress is all abut change but change is not all about progress
	6:15pm Charles-A.: I noticed that the Control Data machine at Concordia University was an antique, even then.
	6:16pm david: thats right, "progress" is used as a way to dispose of lessons learned. exploration is the journey of progress.
	6:18pm Carmichael: I haven't been anywhere or done anything.
	6:19pm david: the tool of influence, to control thought patterns?
	6:20pm Charles-A.: The problem with media exploration is that it stopped being 1:N by the sheer existence of computers. They enabled N:M communication and the changes are still coming.
	6:22pm Charles-A.: We're about to go beyond renting megaphones to the global village idiots.
	6:24pm rushkoff: Doesn't sound so very bad, actually.
	6:24pm Charles-A.: Speaking as a highly skilled, highly paid knowledge former worker, I can attest to the truth of his statements.
	6:26pm Charles-A.: Quaker, Quacker. Its a myth and they repeat it over and over an over.
	6:27pm david: under the influence of the media disregard of the consumer/self.
	6:28pm Charles-A.: Wear these jeans and you'll get and get screwed (not laid :-)
	6:28pm rushkoff: heh
	6:31pm david: to self destruct!
	6:32pm Charles-A.: Isn't life grand on the treadmill? :-)
	6:33pm david: but where are you going?
	6:34pm Charles-A.: Its a treadmill. It will ferry me from the nowhere I find myself now to the grave.
	6:35pm Charles-A.: Its not depressing. Its a fact. :-)
	6:37pm Charles-A.: And the church excommunicated people for usury.
	6:38pm david: not depressives, just maintained progressives.
	6:39pm I seem to be a verb: Nice talk, thank you for it. Reminds me of listening to Bucky, in terms of helping our limited attention and life span view something greater and remember all the obstacles were created by us. I've been thinking a lot lately about how to remove commodified intermediaries between people largely because of your show.
	6:39pm Charles-A.: I'll be you friend because you wear, uh, nothing. :-)
	6:42pm Charles-A.: By Bucky I take it you refer to R. Buckmimster Fuller
	6:43pm Charles-A.: Death Tax = reptilian cognition. (People will always have 100 of IQ,)
	6:44pm non-simultaneously apprehending: You know it! Been reading him and feeling hopeful. In the bathroom at my job, there's a business magazine with this cover: A dark sky, thunderstorm, caption: "How To Use Fear For Your Business". Wish I was making it up. But, I'm glad it's getting so hyperbolic. It's not a stable form.
	6:45pm Charles-A.: But its a canard. A room wheret hey are holding a Mensa meeting still has an average ID of 100.
	6:48pm Charles-A.: I know "non-simultaneously apprehending". What kinds of bastards read magazines with articles subtitled "non-simultaneously apprehending"/
	6:49pm ?: Ahhh. I know "non-simultaneously apprehending". What kinds of bastards read magazines with articles subtitled "How To Use Fear For Your Business"
	6:49pm lactation consultant: heh heh - the worst of 'em..
	6:52pm Charles-A.: Sucks to be a "lactation consultant" or should that be Sucks on...
	6:53pm david: abstraction till distraction, its a dangerous thing but very powerful<
	6:54pm Charles-A.: Cool stole from school, but its always been hip to be square.
	6:57pm david: not quite
	6:59pm Charles-A.: To the Media Squat, you came, saw and you conquered. "Ave Rushkoff. Morituri te salutant." "Ramones" "We Want The Airwaves" "Anthology: Hey Ho, Let's Go.

The Media Squat with Douglas Rushkoff: Playlist from September 28, 2009

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Each show will initiate a series of discussions, which will themselves comprise part of an expanding wiki of resources, support material, and community-generated content.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	Images	New * / Special ***	Approx. start time
Ramones	We Want the Airwaves "We Want the Airwaves" by "Ramones"	Anthology, Hey Ho, lets go!
Ramones	We Want the Airwaves "We Want the Airwaves" by "Ramones"	Anthology, Hey Ho, lets go!

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Listener comments!
	6:01pm Charles-A.: Welcome to The Media Squat. where Douglas Rushkoff … shares. Pull up a square of tile and sit your butts down..
	6:02pm Charles-A.: I got a declarative statement right here. :-) Oy, the Canadian dollar, the Japanese Yen, the Chinese Reminimbi, the Euro and most of the other currencies are faring depressingly well against the US dollar. I'm a Canadian watching my US real estate holdings shrink almost as badly as they did during the mortgage debacle. <sigh>
	6:04pm Charles-A.: I was watching, and it was fun.
	6:06pm Charles-A.: What about Stewart Brand? :-)
	6:06pm david: theres no such thing as progression. maintaining our documentation of exploration is the greatest answer.
	6:08pm Charles-A.: Well, that's progress for you. :-)
	6:08pm chom: the concrete I'm sitting on is cold, Inc.
	6:09pm felipe: I think it is possible to use BRAND in a subversive and positive way. I ran an artists run project in chile called "Galeria Chilena" please check this web site: http://www.lanubeloca.org/Galeria%20Chilena%20Home.html our gallery was NOMADIC, it logo was a heart that changed with each exhibition.
	6:09pm Charles-A.: Watch out for falling, flailing tautologies.
	6:10pm david: great show by the way!! but isnt that an arrogant way to look at it. progress mainly about change isnt it?
	6:11pm Charles-A.: My band in Europe didn't have a fixed name. We'd call ourselves by the number of musicians e were able to rouse at the local conservatory.
	6:13pm Charles-A.: Progress is all abut change but change is not all about progress
	6:15pm Charles-A.: I noticed that the Control Data machine at Concordia University was an antique, even then.
	6:16pm david: thats right, "progress" is used as a way to dispose of lessons learned. exploration is the journey of progress.
	6:18pm Carmichael: I haven't been anywhere or done anything.
	6:19pm david: the tool of influence, to control thought patterns?
	6:20pm Charles-A.: The problem with media exploration is that it stopped being 1:N by the sheer existence of computers. They enabled N:M communication and the changes are still coming.
	6:22pm Charles-A.: We're about to go beyond renting megaphones to the global village idiots.
	6:24pm rushkoff: Doesn't sound so very bad, actually.
	6:24pm Charles-A.: Speaking as a highly skilled, highly paid knowledge former worker, I can attest to the truth of his statements.
	6:26pm Charles-A.: Quaker, Quacker. Its a myth and they repeat it over and over an over.
	6:27pm david: under the influence of the media disregard of the consumer/self.
	6:28pm Charles-A.: Wear these jeans and you'll get and get screwed (not laid :-)
	6:28pm rushkoff: heh
	6:31pm david: to self destruct!
	6:32pm Charles-A.: Isn't life grand on the treadmill? :-)
	6:33pm david: but where are you going?
	6:34pm Charles-A.: Its a treadmill. It will ferry me from the nowhere I find myself now to the grave.
	6:35pm Charles-A.: Its not depressing. Its a fact. :-)
	6:37pm Charles-A.: And the church excommunicated people for usury.
	6:38pm david: not depressives, just maintained progressives.
	6:39pm I seem to be a verb: Nice talk, thank you for it. Reminds me of listening to Bucky, in terms of helping our limited attention and life span view something greater and remember all the obstacles were created by us. I've been thinking a lot lately about how to remove commodified intermediaries between people largely because of your show.
	6:39pm Charles-A.: I'll be you friend because you wear, uh, nothing. :-)
	6:42pm Charles-A.: By Bucky I take it you refer to R. Buckmimster Fuller
	6:43pm Charles-A.: Death Tax = reptilian cognition. (People will always have 100 of IQ,)
	6:44pm non-simultaneously apprehending: You know it! Been reading him and feeling hopeful. In the bathroom at my job, there's a business magazine with this cover: A dark sky, thunderstorm, caption: "How To Use Fear For Your Business". Wish I was making it up. But, I'm glad it's getting so hyperbolic. It's not a stable form.
	6:45pm Charles-A.: But its a canard. A room wheret hey are holding a Mensa meeting still has an average ID of 100.
	6:48pm Charles-A.: I know "non-simultaneously apprehending". What kinds of bastards read magazines with articles subtitled "non-simultaneously apprehending"/
	6:49pm ?: Ahhh. I know "non-simultaneously apprehending". What kinds of bastards read magazines with articles subtitled "How To Use Fear For Your Business"
	6:49pm lactation consultant: heh heh - the worst of 'em..
	6:52pm Charles-A.: Sucks to be a "lactation consultant" or should that be Sucks on...
	6:53pm david: abstraction till distraction, its a dangerous thing but very powerful<
	6:54pm Charles-A.: Cool stole from school, but its always been hip to be square.
	6:57pm david: not quite
	6:59pm Charles-A.: To the Media Squat, you came, saw and you conquered. "Ave Rushkoff. Morituri te salutant." "Ramones" "We Want The Airwaves" "Anthology: Hey Ho, Let's Go.

The Media Squat with Douglas Rushkoff: Playlist from September 28, 2009

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