WFMU: Irwin Chusid: Playlist from April 23, 2014

Listener comments!
	3:05pm djelrock: This has got the same intro as Mens Without Hats! Good start Erwin!
	3:07pm Droll: Family of God is the one known Quadfecta, but this is not that Family of God... unless they went industrial later.
	3:08pm djelrock: Is this from that "Medical Records"comp that was being sold at RSD? It was way too expensive for me to get.
	👻 3:14pm AnAnonymousParty: How do you not like this tune?
	3:16pm awkward jack: von Mark E.
	3:17pm Planet Tyler: @awk j - just thinkin the same thang
	3:17pm Alison Porchnik: I was just thinking, it's like "Bob Dylan went to Senegal and ate The Fall."
	3:18pm mariano: Yes, me too, thought it was the Fall unplugged!
	3:18pm Planet Tyler: Well, it is him. . .
	3:20pm mariano: @Alison: Knew I'd heard that name before! Is it really yours, or from Annie Hall? @Planet Tyler: Oh, duh! Should have looked it up first.
	3:21pm Planet Tyler: @m - well, it is strange of MES to sound so subdued!
	👻 3:21pm AnAnonymousParty: We're listening to Matinee with Bob & Ray? Yay!
	3:24pm Listening Out There: Neat pick. I sorta miss "Radio Thriftshop."
	3:26pm Laura L: No picture for today, Irwin?
	3:27pm Alison Porchnik: Mariano - it's my internet handle, but spelled with only one L for reasons too complicated to go into.
	3:31pm Irwin: LL: didn't have time. Too busy FIGHTING THE MAN!
	3:31pm Alison Porchnik: Irwin, what is your opinion on that, anyway?
	3:32pm djelrock: Ergwuin: play me some Maili Sierious plisdsss!
	👻 3:32pm rrg: The Internet is full of pictures. Full, I tell you.
	3:32pm mariano: Cool, Alison -- I've always loved Carol Kane. Sorry to repost this from last show, but since someone mentioned pictures, this is one of the best series I've seen in ages, as cute as it is occasionally disturbing: www.theguardian.com...
	3:33pm Laura L: But if you don't put up a picture, does it mean THE MAN is winning the fight? Say it ain't so!
	👻 3:34pm rrg: Ken has lots of pictures. Ask him for one.
	3:34pm Listening Out There: Eddie Harris playing with an Eddie Harris mouthpiece...
	3:34pm djelrock: Terrible song that one: 'todo pasa asta la ciruela pasa' WTF?
	👻 3:35pm Ken From Hyde Park: Some of these selections remind me of the Muriel's Treasure segments from a few years ago.
	3:35pm Alison Porchnik: Excellent: http://tinyurl.com/le4rgrl
	3:37pm mariano: I know, right Alison? One of the commenters wrote exactly what I thought when I saw some of the pics: "I am the egg man..."
	3:39pm dale: saw tammy wynette at the bottom line. one of the best shows i have ever seen.
	3:39pm djelrock: Sounds like the chorus is sayin' "oooo bama booh booh lay" This songs sucks!
	3:40pm mariano: @djelrock: Maybe the song is encouraging people to eat prunes?
	3:40pm Monica: Justified & Ancient, my motto. Great show today, Irwin.
	3:44pm djelrock: Ha Ha Ha Thats not a good thing but oh well. I'm getting on Girguins nerves today.
	3:45pm Irwin: Hey, Mo! What's the chart pos this week?
	3:45pm DS: what about the "Fine Young Cannibals"
	3:46pm mariano: @djelrock: Hay que quedarse regular para poder bailar!
	3:47pm djelrock: This has got to be the wimpiest sounding FOW song ever. Only Irwin knows how to pick the worst of the stock. HELLLLOOOOO!
	3:51pm Carmichael: Hiya Irwin and Hump Dayers. Even you, dj.
	3:51pm Mike in Toronto: Great show Irwin. First time listener.
	3:51pm Laura L: It is hot in here or is it just this Sex Machine music?
	3:52pm Carmichael: Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike ...... what day is it?? HUH? HUH????
	👻 3:52pm rrg: djelrock days are the best days.
	3:53pm djelrock: Lol. Of course he has to play an irresistible song once in a while. Gosh darn it. I love this tune.
	3:55pm Carmichael: Irwin loves the jangly rock, as do I.
	3:55pm djelrock: My mouth has been duly shut by the greatness of this guitar feedack a la Loveless. Darn u Irgwin!
	👻 3:55pm rrg: He plays what he likes. We don't matter.
	3:57pm Droll: rrg, Speak for youself! I'll be a damn fine plate of Soylent Green, someday.
	3:59pm Carmichael: This is the 3rd time I've heard Barbara Manning on FMU recently. That is also the name of a 60s actress; that's the memonic device.
	3:59pm djelrock: I am one now Droll. Eat me Irwin Eat me!!
	👻 4:04pm rrg: A lot of people here have never seen Soylent Green. Let's not spoil it for them.
	4:06pm Whooda: Good grief, I miss four minutes of Joe Frank and have no clue WTF he's going on about.
	4:06pm Carmichael: I haven't seen Snakes on a Plane, so please don't talk about that, either.
	👻 4:07pm AnAnonymousParty: You could have used a large blimp to move that mountain for far less cost than a bunch of helicopters.
	4:08pm Irwin: thx to Laura L for the photo link
	4:10pm DS: I think Joe Frank is really Sterling Archer
	👻 4:10pm AnAnonymousParty: Heh, he said 'doody'.
	4:13pm djelrock: Irgui is playin hard 2 get. How cute! #NOT This is an hour of absolute hell. I'd rather listen to Hannah Montana with some Madonna mixed in. Actually, thats a bad idea too.
	4:15pm common: I always wear dark glasses. am i a mountain man? yes.
	👻 4:16pm AnAnonymousParty: Seems like a lot of trouble to got through to create Detroit II.
	4:17pm fleep: Whooda, it's just Joe rearranging the dictionary again.
	4:21pm Droll: Great link to pix -- the guy's got a smoke, a beer, and a pig in every picture. That's the life. Well, if the pig were bacon, that's the life, but they all seem happy enough.
	4:21pm Carmichael: This sounds like The Staples Singers remixed.
	4:22pm Carmichael: The man has his priorities straight.
	4:22pm Longtime Commenter: Is this how you comment with the iPhone app? How very avant...
	👻 4:23pm chris: @djelrock: perhaps of interest, perhaps not, Irwin got me hooked on WFMU with his Incorrect Music hour, way back in the day. I'm the sort who find his show, and WFMU, so hard to resist. I expect I'm not alone.
	4:26pm common: @chris: well said. fmu is church for me. whenever.
	4:27pm robyn: i can't get the picture link to work. maybe the mighty storm of wfmu crashed the website?
	4:27pm Longtime Commenter: Joe is so totally right about this "culture memorizing without understanding" point -- the culture world is full of them
	4:32pm mariano: @common & @chris: It's funny, since I work from home I usually have FMU (or KFJC or WWOZ) on in the background, and the weekly schedule has become something of a liturgical calendar!
	4:32pm Robert: That was my favorite Joe Frank, and I'd been waiting for it to come up.
	4:33pm Whooda: @Longtime Listener Back in Joe's day we still had enough critical thinking skills to 'memorize'. Now we simply communicate in superficial 'image' that require only the intended meaning behind the image as symbol
	4:36pm mariano: But the thing with teleportation is that the real you is destroyed, then a perfect copy made at a remote location.
	4:37pm Longtime Commenter: @Whooda -- superficiality ftw.
	4:37pm djelrock: @mariano: I am in ur same situation. Talk radio is fine for some people but not for me. It makes me sleepy. I like me some weird tunes. Like Miley Cirrus, right Irwin!
	4:38pm sean from ia: @mariano The perfect copy however will not realize that. If the copy is truely perfect it is actually the real you. The problem you seem to have is that the original you experienced destruction.
	👻 4:38pm chris: My son says Joe Frank is scary. I was describing how Joe's vocal cadence, and his looped and layered sounds, is kind of a signature of his art. Then teleporation happened. I didn't convince him to keep listening.
	4:40pm djelrock: Well zed Chris. I dont like Irwins show too much but it's better than that noise garbage on Friday afternoons. God that's awful!
	4:40pm mariano: @sean: I do in fact have a problem with the original me experiencing destruction, not to make too big a deal out of it!
	4:41pm ironybread: Just FYI, the female singing voice during the breaks is Judith Owen (Harry Shearer's significant other) - a performance commissioned by Joe just for this episode. www.judithowen.net
	4:42pm Longtime Commenter: But what do you -really- think, djelrock?
	👻 4:42pm chris: I hear that, @djelrock... Fridays are hard for me, too... until BillyJam, that is.
	4:42pm Carmichael: Tell me something djelrock: Why do you listen to FMU? All your posts are negative rants about the very program you're listening to, but you never seem to turn it off. Why do you continually put yourself through the pain?
	4:44pm common: @mariano from 4:32: I wish I worked from home. but if i didn't get to listen to fmu at my horrid job, i would not be here.
	👻 4:44pm chris: When I find the music difficult, I'm still completely, jaw droppingly impressed with the DJ. I figure it must just be me that doesn't get it.
	4:45pm common: i love the friday programming! whatever floats your individual boat.
	4:47pm Stevel: I love the archives, for when I do not grok the current playlist.
	4:48pm Carmichael: @Chris: thanks for the information. I know her from Richard Thompson's 1,000 years of popular music DVD. She and Debra Dobkin accompany RT live.
	4:48pm mariano: I actually like the Friday noise stuff, same as Brian T and Fabio's stuff: it's really good work music, something about the abstractness of it.
	4:50pm Carmichael: My Fridays consist of Doug Schulkind's Give the Drummer Some, Bryce, Kurt Gottschalk and Shut Up Weirdo. That is a huge rainbow of styles in 8 hours.
	👻 4:51pm chris: OK, I'll give Fridays a try again, damnit... I knew it had to be me. :-)
	4:56pm Carmichael: I'm also considering Individual Boat as a band name.
	4:57pm common: @carmichael: yes! Have a good eve everyone! beersies.
	4:58pm mariano: Pseu and Martha are among the highlights of the week for me as well. Pseu really helped relieve my guilt for not being into Bikini Kill!
	4:58pm Mike East: also, Uncle Michael has been doing a pretty excellent friday show on GTDS
	4:58pm Carmichael: Total beersies, common.
	👻 4:58pm chris: Cheers, common!
	5:01pm Longtime Commenter: Yes, Joe frankly speaking
	5:03pm djelrock: @Carmichael I'm a sadist.
	5:07pm nate: I seriously just heard a local college radio station censor the word "bong" from that Courtney Barnett hit song, which I originally discovered via Irwin. How many angry calls do you think Ken got about it?
	5:08pm Irwin: Friday night's Partch show: www.montclair.edu...
	5:09pm mariano: I love Partch's interpretations of Ancient Greek music. At one time I had to study AG and since then I've always been really interested in what ancient music sounded like.
	5:16pm Whooda: @Mariano It would be an interesting study to learn the history of the 'language' of musical sounds. For example why we associate certain sounds as 'sad', or 'introspective' or even 'psychedelic'.
	5:21pm Matt from Springfield: Yeah! Harry Partch! Hey there, Irwin and Irwineers!
	5:22pm Carmichael: Matt, you just missed a Simpsons discussion. Thought your antennae would alert you.
	5:23pm Whooda: Heydee Ho Matt from Springfield.
	5:24pm Matt from Springfield: @Whooda: The "heaviness" of Minor chords is probably what makes them feel "sad" on a primal level. Some of that goes all the way back to the beginning of Western music's Renaissance codification; for if Minor chords weren't "sad", they wouldn't be "Minor"...
	5:25pm Matt from Springfield: And, a Hi de hi de hi de ho Whooda! @Carm: Aww man! Was that on the Scenario? I don't see one here.
	5:25pm mariano: @Whooda: Oh, there was a lot of philosophy and religion associated with the different modes in AG. Plato refers to the wild youth of his day who listen to phrygian mode music that excites their passions. Can't remember much, but he and others also ascribe different moral qualities to other modes.
	5:25pm lardo: He sounds like Jello Biafra on valium
	5:27pm Droll: Whooda, I've often wondered about that, I think it's all in the microtonal parts of music -- stuff western music constrains. Microtonal music often evokes responses ordinary 12-note music does not (ie: the current music we hear). Accurately mimicking the sound of musicians often involves noodling with microtones -- Paul McCartney's Hoffner bass has awful intonation (that we've come to associate with the sound of hit records).
	5:28pm Matt from Springfield: Giorgios Klintonides of Samos: "We Want The Phryg!"
	5:28pm Whooda: @mariano I've always wondered who gets to decide that 'marches' inspire patriotism, or who proclaimed classical music as 'uplifting' or Joe Walsh as ass-kicking guitar work. OK, I guess the Joe Walsh thing is pretty obvious.
	5:33pm Carmichael: @Matt: Yes, lots of fun Amanda today, including a Simpsons recap.
	5:33pm Laura L: And "Picture Mommy Dead" too! Harry Lindgren did a lotta work!
	5:34pm mariano: @Whooda: Some of it's in the Republic (theoryofmusic.wordpress.com...), but if you Google Plato and musical modes you should get a lot of hits. Funny thing is, because of Medieval misreadings, our current modes and their AG counterparts don't correspond perfectly.
	5:35pm Matt from Springfield: I do enjoy her Simpsons recaps! I listen to her Archives more frequently since that segment started. (AND I'm wicked envious how much Simpsons NYC's syndicated broadcaster apparently gives their fans! Since DC's moved over from Fox to My20 they only show them after prime time on weeknights!)
	5:37pm Whooda: @mariano Thanks for the link. Thinking (over thinking) this idea, I would guess Harry Lindgren is widely responsible for how we interpret sound to image as he was, pardon the pun, instrumental in combining which sounds we see associated with which (moving) images.
	5:40pm Matt from Springfield: Lee Morgan twin spin! How I love these. (Irwin must be vacuumin' about now...)
	5:42pm Carmichael: Great trumpets there. I need to listen to more Lee Morgan.
	5:43pm Irwin: @Carm: short life (dead at 34), but a tremendous catalog. He helmed something like 25 sessions over a 14-year span.
	5:43pm mariano: @Whooda: I'm embarrassed to admit my ignorance, but I don't think I know Harry Lindgren. I Googled it but got an Australian mathematician!
	5:44pm Matt from Springfield: Chin Up, Chin of Britain!
	5:45pm Whooda: @Mariano Here the philosopher claims which melodies match which emotions, but gives no empirical evidence why, ". . . but rather to discover what rhythms are the expressions of a courageous and harmonious life; and when we have found them, we shall adapt the foot and the melody to words having a like spirit, not the words to the foot and melody."
	5:48pm Whooda: @Mariano I only know of Harry Lindgren what Irwin just told us. He was at the forefront of 'talkies' and worked for another 30 years or more as a movie sound engineer. So, by logic, we owe our interpretation of sound/film associations largely, in part, to him.
	5:50pm mariano: @Whooda: Plato's the wrong place to be looking for empirical anything. He more or less felt that all you needed was pure reason to explore the mysteries of the cosmos, but he usually confused pure reason with his own opinions and prejudices. Sorry I didn't hear Irwin talking about HL, downside of listening while I work!
	5:50pm Carmichael: Thanks, Irwin. I'm comforted that he's not making more music while I'm trying to buy up his back catalogue.
	5:51pm Whooda: @Mariano forgive me, I just made my first champane from a bottle of dry wine and a C02 bottle of compressed gas. I'm a bit tipsy. I mean to refer to the sound engineer that Irwin mentioned from his wikipedia search. Whatever his name is. Sorry, I'm not much of a stickler for details while I'm lit :)
	5:52pm Matt from Springfield: Found recording by "two girls"!! My favorite group!!
	5:52pm mariano: @Whooda: Sounds nice! No worries, I'll figure it out, enjoy the bubbly!
	5:53pm djelrock: God Damn it! This SUUUUUCKS sooooo muuuuuuuuch.
	5:54pm Carmichael: You probably wouldn't like Amanda either, I'm guessing.
	5:54pm mariano: @djelrock: Sure you're a sadist, not a masochist?
	5:54pm Whooda: @Mariano I was being a bit ironic in that it's impossible to associate emotion with any specific melody or scale or composition. Like Plato, someone just has to say it is so. My question is who got to say it's is so. In this respect I have equal authority as Plato to say so.
	5:54pm Mr. Lowry: But it's an improvement over the original, you have to admit.
	5:54pm Matt from Springfield: Two Girls...With Attitude!!! They do sound like they could be in the G.W.A "ensemble".
	5:54pm Droll: Yes! Embrace the suck!
	5:55pm Irwin: DJE: You're obviously a masochist, loving every minute of the pain.
	5:56pm Mr. Lowry: Harmony!
	5:56pm djelrock: I hate GirGwin so much. Ha ha ha ha ha ha
	5:57pm Whooda: I can just see the happy parents clicking away and pointing up at the stage, mouthing, "That's my daughter!"
	5:57pm djelrock: LMAO
	5:57pm Droll: Thanks for the sucky music Irwin! I'll be back for more, you can count on that. Have a fun week, yinz!
	5:58pm mariano: @Whooda: Yeah, in the end it boils down to someone's personal opinion. Plato is usually thought of fondly these days, but he definitely had his more unsavory, authoritarian side, as in his musical opinions. The closest thing we have to his Republic today would be North Korea, and that's hardly an exaggeration!
	5:58pm Matt from Springfield: Excellente, Irwin! Fantastic show!
	5:58pm Laura L: Thanks, Irwin, everybody hated your show so much for three whole hours!
	5:58pm mariano: Thanks Irwin! Great show, as always!
	5:59pm djelrock: Thats right. Nobody does it as bad as Irwin
	5:59pm Whooda: @Mariano I just think that whoever claimed minor keys were less pleasurable as whole keys fucked up music appreciation for everyone.
	6:00pm Listening Out There: Merci!
	6:00pm mariano: Yeah: bad to the bone!!!
	2:12am Wait..: bad boy bill is underground?????? hahahahaha
	2:39pm HelenaHandbasket: Listening a day late on podcast, but just have to chime in that the vocalist riffing at the end of the Joe Frank piece, the fantastically talented Judith Owen, is the wife of the great Harry Shearer ... which (to add to the Simpsons references here) sort of makes her Mrs. Montgomery Burns...

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Lee Morgan	Yes I Can, No You Can't (edit)	The Gigolo	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Family of God	World of Squalor "World of Squalor" by "Family of God"	We Are the World	0:03:26 (Pop-up)
The Marty Kings	Main Street "Main Street" by "The Marty Kings"	XVII (Free Music Archive)	0:07:15 (Pop-up)
Parlor James	House of Flesh and Bones	Old Dreams	0:09:57 (Pop-up)
Von Südenfed	Dear Dead Friends "Dear Dead Friends" by "Von Südenfed"	Tromatic Reflexxions	0:14:33 (Pop-up)

Laura Cantrell	Starry Skies "Starry Skies" by "Laura Cantrell"	No Way There From Here	0:23:30 (Pop-up)
Liliana Felipe	A Su Merced "A Su Merced" by "Liliana Felipe"	Elotitos Tiernos	0:26:34 (Pop-up)
Eddie Harris	Is It In "Is It In" by "Eddie Harris"	The Eddie Harris Anthology	0:32:56 (Pop-up)
The KLF (with Tammy Wynette)	Stand By The Jams	The White Room/Justified & Ancient	0:36:30 (Pop-up)

Fountains of Wayne	Richie and Ruben	Sky Full of Holes	0:44:30 (Pop-up)
Staff Benda Bilili	Sex Machine "Sex Machine" by "Staff Benda Bilili"	Tres Tres Fort	0:48:21 (Pop-up)
Flyying Colours	Feathers "Feathers" by "Flyying Colours"	Flyying Colours	0:51:23 (Pop-up)
Barbara Manning	Martian Man "Martian Man" by "Barbara Manning"	Barbara Manning Sings With the Original Artists	0:54:33 (Pop-up)


Harry Partch	Study on Olympos' Pentatonic	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:05:24 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	Study on Archytas' Enharmonic	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:07:05 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	The Rose "The Rose" by "Harry Partch"	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:08:38 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	The Crane "The Crane" by "Harry Partch"	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:09:54 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	The Waterfall "The Waterfall" by "Harry Partch"	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:13:06 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	The Wind "The Wind" by "Harry Partch"	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:13:14 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	The Street "The Street" by "Harry Partch"	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:14:52 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	Lover "Lover" by "Harry Partch"	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:17:57 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	Soldiers - War - Another War	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:19:29 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	Vanity "Vanity" by "Harry Partch"	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:21:23 (Pop-up)
Harry Partch	Cloud-Chamber Music "Cloud-Chamber Music" by "Harry Partch"	Eleven Intrusions (1949-1950)	2:22:25 (Pop-up)
Mary Lorson & Billy Coté	Old Man Dance	Piano Creeps	2:26:02 (Pop-up)

Lee Morgan	The Mercenary "The Mercenary" by "Lee Morgan"	Sonic Boom	2:33:59 (Pop-up)
Chin of Britain	To the Sun and Beyond	Chin of Britain	2:40:45 (Pop-up)
Dirty on Purpose	All New Friends "All New Friends" by "Dirty on Purpose"	Sleep Late for a Better Tomorrow	2:45:35 (Pop-up)
Simon Mathewson	Being Me "Being Me" by "Simon Mathewson"	Portasound Pop Songs	2:49:53 (Pop-up)
two girls	Time of My Life "Time of My Life" by "two girls"	found recording	2:50:59 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:05pm djelrock: This has got the same intro as Mens Without Hats! Good start Erwin!
	3:07pm Droll: Family of God is the one known Quadfecta, but this is not that Family of God... unless they went industrial later.
	3:08pm djelrock: Is this from that "Medical Records"comp that was being sold at RSD? It was way too expensive for me to get.
	👻 3:14pm AnAnonymousParty: How do you not like this tune?
	3:16pm awkward jack: von Mark E.
	3:17pm Planet Tyler: @awk j - just thinkin the same thang
	3:17pm Alison Porchnik: I was just thinking, it's like "Bob Dylan went to Senegal and ate The Fall."
	3:18pm mariano: Yes, me too, thought it was the Fall unplugged!
	3:18pm Planet Tyler: Well, it is him. . .
	3:20pm mariano: @Alison: Knew I'd heard that name before! Is it really yours, or from Annie Hall? @Planet Tyler: Oh, duh! Should have looked it up first.
	3:21pm Planet Tyler: @m - well, it is strange of MES to sound so subdued!
	👻 3:21pm AnAnonymousParty: We're listening to Matinee with Bob & Ray? Yay!
	3:24pm Listening Out There: Neat pick. I sorta miss "Radio Thriftshop."
	3:26pm Laura L: No picture for today, Irwin?
	3:27pm Alison Porchnik: Mariano - it's my internet handle, but spelled with only one L for reasons too complicated to go into.
	3:31pm Irwin: LL: didn't have time. Too busy FIGHTING THE MAN!
	3:31pm Alison Porchnik: Irwin, what is your opinion on that, anyway?
	3:32pm djelrock: Ergwuin: play me some Maili Sierious plisdsss!
	👻 3:32pm rrg: The Internet is full of pictures. Full, I tell you.
	3:32pm mariano: Cool, Alison -- I've always loved Carol Kane. Sorry to repost this from last show, but since someone mentioned pictures, this is one of the best series I've seen in ages, as cute as it is occasionally disturbing: www.theguardian.com...
	3:33pm Laura L: But if you don't put up a picture, does it mean THE MAN is winning the fight? Say it ain't so!
	👻 3:34pm rrg: Ken has lots of pictures. Ask him for one.
	3:34pm Listening Out There: Eddie Harris playing with an Eddie Harris mouthpiece...
	3:34pm djelrock: Terrible song that one: 'todo pasa asta la ciruela pasa' WTF?
	👻 3:35pm Ken From Hyde Park: Some of these selections remind me of the Muriel's Treasure segments from a few years ago.
	3:35pm Alison Porchnik: Excellent: http://tinyurl.com/le4rgrl
	3:37pm mariano: I know, right Alison? One of the commenters wrote exactly what I thought when I saw some of the pics: "I am the egg man..."
	3:39pm dale: saw tammy wynette at the bottom line. one of the best shows i have ever seen.
	3:39pm djelrock: Sounds like the chorus is sayin' "oooo bama booh booh lay" This songs sucks!
	3:40pm mariano: @djelrock: Maybe the song is encouraging people to eat prunes?
	3:40pm Monica: Justified & Ancient, my motto. Great show today, Irwin.
	3:44pm djelrock: Ha Ha Ha Thats not a good thing but oh well. I'm getting on Girguins nerves today.
	3:45pm Irwin: Hey, Mo! What's the chart pos this week?
	3:45pm DS: what about the "Fine Young Cannibals"
	3:46pm mariano: @djelrock: Hay que quedarse regular para poder bailar!
	3:47pm djelrock: This has got to be the wimpiest sounding FOW song ever. Only Irwin knows how to pick the worst of the stock. HELLLLOOOOO!
	3:51pm Carmichael: Hiya Irwin and Hump Dayers. Even you, dj.
	3:51pm Mike in Toronto: Great show Irwin. First time listener.
	3:51pm Laura L: It is hot in here or is it just this Sex Machine music?
	3:52pm Carmichael: Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike ...... what day is it?? HUH? HUH????
	👻 3:52pm rrg: djelrock days are the best days.
	3:53pm djelrock: Lol. Of course he has to play an irresistible song once in a while. Gosh darn it. I love this tune.
	3:55pm Carmichael: Irwin loves the jangly rock, as do I.
	3:55pm djelrock: My mouth has been duly shut by the greatness of this guitar feedack a la Loveless. Darn u Irgwin!
	👻 3:55pm rrg: He plays what he likes. We don't matter.
	3:57pm Droll: rrg, Speak for youself! I'll be a damn fine plate of Soylent Green, someday.
	3:59pm Carmichael: This is the 3rd time I've heard Barbara Manning on FMU recently. That is also the name of a 60s actress; that's the memonic device.
	3:59pm djelrock: I am one now Droll. Eat me Irwin Eat me!!
	👻 4:04pm rrg: A lot of people here have never seen Soylent Green. Let's not spoil it for them.
	4:06pm Whooda: Good grief, I miss four minutes of Joe Frank and have no clue WTF he's going on about.
	4:06pm Carmichael: I haven't seen Snakes on a Plane, so please don't talk about that, either.
	👻 4:07pm AnAnonymousParty: You could have used a large blimp to move that mountain for far less cost than a bunch of helicopters.
	4:08pm Irwin: thx to Laura L for the photo link
	4:10pm DS: I think Joe Frank is really Sterling Archer
	👻 4:10pm AnAnonymousParty: Heh, he said 'doody'.
	4:13pm djelrock: Irgui is playin hard 2 get. How cute! #NOT This is an hour of absolute hell. I'd rather listen to Hannah Montana with some Madonna mixed in. Actually, thats a bad idea too.
	4:15pm common: I always wear dark glasses. am i a mountain man? yes.
	👻 4:16pm AnAnonymousParty: Seems like a lot of trouble to got through to create Detroit II.
	4:17pm fleep: Whooda, it's just Joe rearranging the dictionary again.
	4:21pm Droll: Great link to pix -- the guy's got a smoke, a beer, and a pig in every picture. That's the life. Well, if the pig were bacon, that's the life, but they all seem happy enough.
	4:21pm Carmichael: This sounds like The Staples Singers remixed.
	4:22pm Carmichael: The man has his priorities straight.
	4:22pm Longtime Commenter: Is this how you comment with the iPhone app? How very avant...
	👻 4:23pm chris: @djelrock: perhaps of interest, perhaps not, Irwin got me hooked on WFMU with his Incorrect Music hour, way back in the day. I'm the sort who find his show, and WFMU, so hard to resist. I expect I'm not alone.
	4:26pm common: @chris: well said. fmu is church for me. whenever.
	4:27pm robyn: i can't get the picture link to work. maybe the mighty storm of wfmu crashed the website?
	4:27pm Longtime Commenter: Joe is so totally right about this "culture memorizing without understanding" point -- the culture world is full of them
	4:32pm mariano: @common & @chris: It's funny, since I work from home I usually have FMU (or KFJC or WWOZ) on in the background, and the weekly schedule has become something of a liturgical calendar!
	4:32pm Robert: That was my favorite Joe Frank, and I'd been waiting for it to come up.
	4:33pm Whooda: @Longtime Listener Back in Joe's day we still had enough critical thinking skills to 'memorize'. Now we simply communicate in superficial 'image' that require only the intended meaning behind the image as symbol
	4:36pm mariano: But the thing with teleportation is that the real you is destroyed, then a perfect copy made at a remote location.
	4:37pm Longtime Commenter: @Whooda -- superficiality ftw.
	4:37pm djelrock: @mariano: I am in ur same situation. Talk radio is fine for some people but not for me. It makes me sleepy. I like me some weird tunes. Like Miley Cirrus, right Irwin!
	4:38pm sean from ia: @mariano The perfect copy however will not realize that. If the copy is truely perfect it is actually the real you. The problem you seem to have is that the original you experienced destruction.
	👻 4:38pm chris: My son says Joe Frank is scary. I was describing how Joe's vocal cadence, and his looped and layered sounds, is kind of a signature of his art. Then teleporation happened. I didn't convince him to keep listening.
	4:40pm djelrock: Well zed Chris. I dont like Irwins show too much but it's better than that noise garbage on Friday afternoons. God that's awful!
	4:40pm mariano: @sean: I do in fact have a problem with the original me experiencing destruction, not to make too big a deal out of it!
	4:41pm ironybread: Just FYI, the female singing voice during the breaks is Judith Owen (Harry Shearer's significant other) - a performance commissioned by Joe just for this episode. www.judithowen.net
	4:42pm Longtime Commenter: But what do you -really- think, djelrock?
	👻 4:42pm chris: I hear that, @djelrock... Fridays are hard for me, too... until BillyJam, that is.
	4:42pm Carmichael: Tell me something djelrock: Why do you listen to FMU? All your posts are negative rants about the very program you're listening to, but you never seem to turn it off. Why do you continually put yourself through the pain?
	4:44pm common: @mariano from 4:32: I wish I worked from home. but if i didn't get to listen to fmu at my horrid job, i would not be here.
	👻 4:44pm chris: When I find the music difficult, I'm still completely, jaw droppingly impressed with the DJ. I figure it must just be me that doesn't get it.
	4:45pm common: i love the friday programming! whatever floats your individual boat.
	4:47pm Stevel: I love the archives, for when I do not grok the current playlist.
	4:48pm Carmichael: @Chris: thanks for the information. I know her from Richard Thompson's 1,000 years of popular music DVD. She and Debra Dobkin accompany RT live.
	4:48pm mariano: I actually like the Friday noise stuff, same as Brian T and Fabio's stuff: it's really good work music, something about the abstractness of it.
	4:50pm Carmichael: My Fridays consist of Doug Schulkind's Give the Drummer Some, Bryce, Kurt Gottschalk and Shut Up Weirdo. That is a huge rainbow of styles in 8 hours.
	👻 4:51pm chris: OK, I'll give Fridays a try again, damnit... I knew it had to be me. :-)
	4:56pm Carmichael: I'm also considering Individual Boat as a band name.
	4:57pm common: @carmichael: yes! Have a good eve everyone! beersies.
	4:58pm mariano: Pseu and Martha are among the highlights of the week for me as well. Pseu really helped relieve my guilt for not being into Bikini Kill!
	4:58pm Mike East: also, Uncle Michael has been doing a pretty excellent friday show on GTDS
	4:58pm Carmichael: Total beersies, common.
	👻 4:58pm chris: Cheers, common!
	5:01pm Longtime Commenter: Yes, Joe frankly speaking
	5:03pm djelrock: @Carmichael I'm a sadist.
	5:07pm nate: I seriously just heard a local college radio station censor the word "bong" from that Courtney Barnett hit song, which I originally discovered via Irwin. How many angry calls do you think Ken got about it?
	5:08pm Irwin: Friday night's Partch show: www.montclair.edu...
	5:09pm mariano: I love Partch's interpretations of Ancient Greek music. At one time I had to study AG and since then I've always been really interested in what ancient music sounded like.
	5:16pm Whooda: @Mariano It would be an interesting study to learn the history of the 'language' of musical sounds. For example why we associate certain sounds as 'sad', or 'introspective' or even 'psychedelic'.
	5:21pm Matt from Springfield: Yeah! Harry Partch! Hey there, Irwin and Irwineers!
	5:22pm Carmichael: Matt, you just missed a Simpsons discussion. Thought your antennae would alert you.
	5:23pm Whooda: Heydee Ho Matt from Springfield.
	5:24pm Matt from Springfield: @Whooda: The "heaviness" of Minor chords is probably what makes them feel "sad" on a primal level. Some of that goes all the way back to the beginning of Western music's Renaissance codification; for if Minor chords weren't "sad", they wouldn't be "Minor"...
	5:25pm Matt from Springfield: And, a Hi de hi de hi de ho Whooda! @Carm: Aww man! Was that on the Scenario? I don't see one here.
	5:25pm mariano: @Whooda: Oh, there was a lot of philosophy and religion associated with the different modes in AG. Plato refers to the wild youth of his day who listen to phrygian mode music that excites their passions. Can't remember much, but he and others also ascribe different moral qualities to other modes.
	5:25pm lardo: He sounds like Jello Biafra on valium
	5:27pm Droll: Whooda, I've often wondered about that, I think it's all in the microtonal parts of music -- stuff western music constrains. Microtonal music often evokes responses ordinary 12-note music does not (ie: the current music we hear). Accurately mimicking the sound of musicians often involves noodling with microtones -- Paul McCartney's Hoffner bass has awful intonation (that we've come to associate with the sound of hit records).
	5:28pm Matt from Springfield: Giorgios Klintonides of Samos: "We Want The Phryg!"
	5:28pm Whooda: @mariano I've always wondered who gets to decide that 'marches' inspire patriotism, or who proclaimed classical music as 'uplifting' or Joe Walsh as ass-kicking guitar work. OK, I guess the Joe Walsh thing is pretty obvious.
	5:33pm Carmichael: @Matt: Yes, lots of fun Amanda today, including a Simpsons recap.
	5:33pm Laura L: And "Picture Mommy Dead" too! Harry Lindgren did a lotta work!
	5:34pm mariano: @Whooda: Some of it's in the Republic (theoryofmusic.wordpress.com...), but if you Google Plato and musical modes you should get a lot of hits. Funny thing is, because of Medieval misreadings, our current modes and their AG counterparts don't correspond perfectly.
	5:35pm Matt from Springfield: I do enjoy her Simpsons recaps! I listen to her Archives more frequently since that segment started. (AND I'm wicked envious how much Simpsons NYC's syndicated broadcaster apparently gives their fans! Since DC's moved over from Fox to My20 they only show them after prime time on weeknights!)
	5:37pm Whooda: @mariano Thanks for the link. Thinking (over thinking) this idea, I would guess Harry Lindgren is widely responsible for how we interpret sound to image as he was, pardon the pun, instrumental in combining which sounds we see associated with which (moving) images.
	5:40pm Matt from Springfield: Lee Morgan twin spin! How I love these. (Irwin must be vacuumin' about now...)
	5:42pm Carmichael: Great trumpets there. I need to listen to more Lee Morgan.
	5:43pm Irwin: @Carm: short life (dead at 34), but a tremendous catalog. He helmed something like 25 sessions over a 14-year span.
	5:43pm mariano: @Whooda: I'm embarrassed to admit my ignorance, but I don't think I know Harry Lindgren. I Googled it but got an Australian mathematician!
	5:44pm Matt from Springfield: Chin Up, Chin of Britain!
	5:45pm Whooda: @Mariano Here the philosopher claims which melodies match which emotions, but gives no empirical evidence why, ". . . but rather to discover what rhythms are the expressions of a courageous and harmonious life; and when we have found them, we shall adapt the foot and the melody to words having a like spirit, not the words to the foot and melody."
	5:48pm Whooda: @Mariano I only know of Harry Lindgren what Irwin just told us. He was at the forefront of 'talkies' and worked for another 30 years or more as a movie sound engineer. So, by logic, we owe our interpretation of sound/film associations largely, in part, to him.
	5:50pm mariano: @Whooda: Plato's the wrong place to be looking for empirical anything. He more or less felt that all you needed was pure reason to explore the mysteries of the cosmos, but he usually confused pure reason with his own opinions and prejudices. Sorry I didn't hear Irwin talking about HL, downside of listening while I work!
	5:50pm Carmichael: Thanks, Irwin. I'm comforted that he's not making more music while I'm trying to buy up his back catalogue.
	5:51pm Whooda: @Mariano forgive me, I just made my first champane from a bottle of dry wine and a C02 bottle of compressed gas. I'm a bit tipsy. I mean to refer to the sound engineer that Irwin mentioned from his wikipedia search. Whatever his name is. Sorry, I'm not much of a stickler for details while I'm lit :)
	5:52pm Matt from Springfield: Found recording by "two girls"!! My favorite group!!
	5:52pm mariano: @Whooda: Sounds nice! No worries, I'll figure it out, enjoy the bubbly!
	5:53pm djelrock: God Damn it! This SUUUUUCKS sooooo muuuuuuuuch.
	5:54pm Carmichael: You probably wouldn't like Amanda either, I'm guessing.
	5:54pm mariano: @djelrock: Sure you're a sadist, not a masochist?
	5:54pm Whooda: @Mariano I was being a bit ironic in that it's impossible to associate emotion with any specific melody or scale or composition. Like Plato, someone just has to say it is so. My question is who got to say it's is so. In this respect I have equal authority as Plato to say so.
	5:54pm Mr. Lowry: But it's an improvement over the original, you have to admit.
	5:54pm Matt from Springfield: Two Girls...With Attitude!!! They do sound like they could be in the G.W.A "ensemble".
	5:54pm Droll: Yes! Embrace the suck!
	5:55pm Irwin: DJE: You're obviously a masochist, loving every minute of the pain.
	5:56pm Mr. Lowry: Harmony!
	5:56pm djelrock: I hate GirGwin so much. Ha ha ha ha ha ha
	5:57pm Whooda: I can just see the happy parents clicking away and pointing up at the stage, mouthing, "That's my daughter!"
	5:57pm djelrock: LMAO
	5:57pm Droll: Thanks for the sucky music Irwin! I'll be back for more, you can count on that. Have a fun week, yinz!
	5:58pm mariano: @Whooda: Yeah, in the end it boils down to someone's personal opinion. Plato is usually thought of fondly these days, but he definitely had his more unsavory, authoritarian side, as in his musical opinions. The closest thing we have to his Republic today would be North Korea, and that's hardly an exaggeration!
	5:58pm Matt from Springfield: Excellente, Irwin! Fantastic show!
	5:58pm Laura L: Thanks, Irwin, everybody hated your show so much for three whole hours!
	5:58pm mariano: Thanks Irwin! Great show, as always!
	5:59pm djelrock: Thats right. Nobody does it as bad as Irwin
	5:59pm Whooda: @Mariano I just think that whoever claimed minor keys were less pleasurable as whole keys fucked up music appreciation for everyone.
	6:00pm Listening Out There: Merci!
	6:00pm mariano: Yeah: bad to the bone!!!
	2:12am Wait..: bad boy bill is underground?????? hahahahaha
	2:39pm HelenaHandbasket: Listening a day late on podcast, but just have to chime in that the vocalist riffing at the end of the Joe Frank piece, the fantastically talented Judith Owen, is the wife of the great Harry Shearer ... which (to add to the Simpsons references here) sort of makes her Mrs. Montgomery Burns...

Irwin Chusid: Playlist from April 23, 2014

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