WFMU: World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from July 20, 2014

Listener comments!
	9:03pm Dave Mandl: Evening, friends.
	9:04pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Evening mr Mandl
	9:05pm duke: Good evening DM and all
	9:06pm Dave Mandl: Hey there, Phillip. Hiya duke.
	9:07pm Dave Mandl: @Phillip: I won't ask you to reveal your exact location, but give me a zip code.
	9:07pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Smokey jazz theme tonight? I like it:-)
	9:08pm P-90: Evening Dave.
	9:09pm Dave Mandl: Howdy, P-90.
	9:09pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): I don't mind:-) I'm in bushwick Brooklyn zip code 11237
	9:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...not Charlie Haden...but I'll bet he likes him...
	9:10pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Been a fan of jazz for years but never really got into the names and the bands.
	9:11pm Dave Mandl: @Phillip: More jazz coming up now. Smokey-ish. @RRN63: Evening!
	9:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - like - in Jazz, Monk is 2nd only to Trane for me - but attaching the Titles to the Songs? ...seriously though - this is stunning...
	9:12pm P-90: Cool. I'm up for some Smokey-ish tonight.
	9:12pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Makes me feel like I'm in a smoke filled nightclub sitting at a table watching the band play while people smoke
	9:13pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): The days when you could smoke in a nightclub and wear a beret and dark glasses
	9:14pm P-90: Charlie C.! Yes!!!!
	9:16pm fleep: Broke open "Hippies" for the first time today, gardening. What a great comp, Dave, worth many repeat plays. And now for something comletely different.
	9:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Speculation on how CharlieC. (electric gittar!) may have been formative to Bop in ways not Recorded. CecilT. !...
	9:18pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Wish I knew more than Miles Davis and monk and Herbie Hancock
	9:18pm Dave Mandl: Hey there, fleep, and thanks.
	9:19pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): And Charlie "the bird" Parker
	9:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I always thot: Jazz is like Computers: no matter how much you know - there's always...
	9:26pm P-90: CC: Very first ELECTRIC guitar hero, important distinction
	9:31pm Kurt Gottschalk: THRILLINGTON!
	9:31pm Droll: [Shaking head] Jazz is not like computers. Computers break when pushed, but jazz bends.
	9:33pm Dave Mandl: Evening, Droll. KURT!!!
	9:34pm P-90: P. McSmokey strikes
	9:35pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): I do follow you on twitter
	9:36pm I k e: Loving 11232. I was in 11219, 11226, and 11230 earlier today. Anyway, sounds good.
	9:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...in that respect Droll... - Sir Macca...I like the Fireman stuff - which seems to elude Beatlemania & not be distributed to everyone & their cat...Paul critiqued for being Avant when it served his Social Climbing - whereas John was always about 1st Person Expression - but he was earlier than John when John was still Rockist. Also: John reportedly disliked Jazz...
	9:37pm cory: Holy shit, I like a solo Paul McCartney song.
	9:37pm Dave Mandl: Hey there. Ike.
	9:38pm P-90: Thirlling selection. And Smokey too.
	9:38pm Dave Mandl: @RRN63: Hard to argue with that. McCartney could be a social-climber and a dabbler. Did do some pretty great music, though.
	9:39pm Dave Mandl: @cory: Glad to have been responsible for that.
	9:40pm Dave Mandl: BTW, Mr. Kurt recently did a pretty extensive and excellent piece on McCartney's solo career.
	9:40pm Dave Mandl: @Kurt: I don't have the link handy. Can you post it?
	9:41pm fleep: OK, followed you, now totally informed about erratic PATH train behavior.
	9:42pm Dave Mandl: We may have lost Kurt. If so, I know I've got the link somewhere.
	9:44pm Dave Mandl: Here it is: oneweekoneband.tumblr.com...
	9:45pm P-90: Thanks Dave, eager to read that
	9:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...it's like decades were spent debunking the idea that John was Words & Paul was Melody - but now oscillating back to the idea that Lennon was Ideas & tended to sing Monotones - & Paul was the Melodic Genius of Rock who tended to go 'lala deedee' ...all this from Tim Riley's book 'Tell Me Why', btw...
	9:46pm Dave Mandl: @fleep: Not that big a deal, but it was very strange. PATH train drives to the wrong station (a station that's not even open), then announces that it's at a different station.
	9:50pm Kurt Gottschalk: oh gosh, thanks dave! (sorry, i'm btw tasks over here). here's a link for the mccartney thing with all the posts in reverse order. i thought there was a better one but maybe not. oneweekoneband.tumblr.com...
	9:52pm Ike: The Port Authority is v. incompetent lately and esp. doesn't give a flying rat's rump about weekend or late night passengers, but that really crowns it, Dave. Glad to be mainly riding MTA now, they look quite solid by comparison.
	9:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: ok, here's a link where you don't have to stand on your head while reading: oneweekoneband.tumblr.com... i hate how blogs make the world upside down.
	9:56pm pacific standard simon: Good evening Dave and the usual suspects. Gotta eat dinner before I can hang with y'all.
	9:56pm Dave Mandl: Hey, pss. Yeah, sustenance comes first.
	10:02pm Kurt Gottschalk: chicago underground duo, chicago underground trio, chicago underground quartet ... was there a quintet too?
	10:03pm Kurt Gottschalk: and i know there's at least a couple 45+ minute art ensemble of chicago tracks, that'll get you a lot of the way there.
	10:04pm Kurt Gottschalk: pretty sure paul doesn't play on thrillington.
	10:04pm Droll: 3,589 bands with Chicago in their name, 9,487 bands with "New York" in their name. That was definitely Sir Paul on bass, which sounded out of place with the orchestral arrangements.
	10:06pm Kurt Gottschalk: really, droll? def? i was under the impression paul wasn't on the sessions.
	10:08pm Kurt Gottschalk: don't listen to dave. him, irwin and evan are all real drummers.
	10:10pm Kurt Gottschalk: i know it's not definitive but wikipedia credits herbie flowers with bass on thrillington, who could sound like paul for sure - especially if he decided to try!
	10:11pm Kurt Gottschalk: i'm starting to think i've finished working for the night. did judy chicago make any records?
	10:11pm Droll: kg, Someone's playing electric bass along with that track. It had that McCartney phrasing that leads the chord changes... If it's not Paul, they aped his sound and style for sure.
	10:12pm Uncle Michael: Harry the hairy Ape vs. Guitarzan
	10:14pm Kurt Gottschalk: i'm willing to go with herbie flowers, droll. from what i've read, paul worked with richard hewson in planning the record and arrangements but wasn't present for the recordings.
	10:15pm Kurt Gottschalk: but diamond dave mandl would probably know, if he'd just quit dj'ing for a dang minute.
	10:16pm Uncle Michael: The only Richard Hewson stuff I know is the Melody soundtrack. I should know more.
	10:17pm Dave Mandl: @Kurt: No, I don't. I was guessing, because that's obviously a bass guitar and could be him. I'm sure what you've read is right. Anything any Beatle has done has been documented and researched by a million people.
	10:18pm P-90: For what it's worth, I ve put my time in studying Paul's playing too, and I heard McCartney-INfluenced playing on that track, not Paul himself. I could be wrong of course...
	10:18pm listener phillip in brooklyn: ahhhhh:-) Miles Davis
	10:19pm Dave Mandl: @Phillip: Yeah, it's Hooked on Jazz Classics tonight.
	10:20pm Kurt Gottschalk: richard hewson did phil spector's arrangements for some 'let it be' tracks as well. 'the long and winding road' and maybe the title tune.
	10:20pm Droll: kg, I could believe Herbie Flowers, but the likeness is still uncanny. If that question is the most interesting part of the album, we've all failed: composers, performer, and listener.
	10:22pm JakeGould: Hey there, Jazz-night.
	10:22pm Kurt Gottschalk: that question is not the most interesting part of the album. i like that album a lot. but that's the question that was raised. herbie played with lou reed, elton john, t-rex, etc. i have no doubt he could ape paul mccartney if asked.
	10:22pm P-90: @Droll: NOT the most interesting part by a any means.
	10:23pm Dave Mandl: Agreed, it's a very good record.
	10:23pm northguineahills: Ahh, Sunday night....
	10:29pm pacific standard simon: OK, I'm back. Just in time for a really weird record, it seems.
	10:30pm Dave Mandl: Psychedelic Chubby Checker. Nothing to see here.
	10:31pm Kurt Gottschalk: hahaha!
	10:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: dave, i am glad to see you have your full name on your friendship soc sign-in. i never changed mine and was starting to feel UNCOOL!
	10:32pm Uncle Michael: This is sensational.
	10:33pm Kurt Gottschalk: there's no way chubby checker is on that record. gotta be herbie flowers.
	10:35pm Uncle Michael: Check it. www.discogs.com...
	10:35pm pacific standard simon: They asked Chubbs and he said he was too stoned on Amsterdam weed to remember.
	10:36pm Kurt Gottschalk: blog.wfmu.org...
	10:39pm P-90: I'd like to believe it was Chubby.. I liked that it wasn't just "Psychedelic", it was Gospel-flavored Psychedelic. If Chubby didn't do it he SHOULD have.
	10:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...yer can Surf on Heroin - yer can Twist on Acid...loosen up youzeguys...
	10:39pm Kurt Gottschalk: here's a post with more info and a dl link that appars to be broken
	10:40pm Kurt Gottschalk: twilightzone-rideyourpony.blogspot.com...
	10:40pm Dave Mandl: Ah, I hadn't seen that blog post. Seemed no reason to doubt it was Chubby, but I'd never seen definite confirmation. I'm guessing the producer did all the real work.
	10:40pm pacific standard simon: Yeah, I'll listen to ANY record that features a "quadrangularus reversum"!
	10:42pm Kurt Gottschalk: i was goofing about it not being chubby, re: mccartney / herbie flowers discussion above.
	10:43pm Droll: I thing Paul might played all the instruments on the Chubby Checker record because I read Paul plays everything.
	10:44pm Kurt Gottschalk: prince played all the instruments on the chubby checker record but he won't release the tapes.
	10:44pm Kurt Gottschalk: herbie flowers is filling in for dave mandl tonight.
	10:44pm P-90: I wanna hear the Chubby track that sounds like 'Jimi Hendrix Jamming with Blue Cheer"
	10:45pm JakeGould: Prince is great. Just need to say that since I am rediscovering Prince.
	10:45pm pacific standard simon: And the part of Chubby Checker was played by Paul Winchell!
	10:45pm northguineahills: This Zeena Parkins is new to me, quite nice....
	10:45pm Kurt Gottschalk: prince is amaze. just need to say that because jakegould said that.
	10:46pm JakeGould: Kurt is amaze balls because I think Kurt is at that high/drunk point where if I don’t agree with him it will be all awkward.
	10:47pm Droll: kg, Wrong again -- Stevie Wonder plays all the instruments on Prince records.
	10:47pm Kurt Gottschalk: jakegould you are very wise.
	10:47pm pacific standard simon: Can I be ring bearer at your wedding?
	10:47pm Kurt Gottschalk: droll, prince paid stevie wonder to play all the instruments on all his records so same thing.
	10:47pm JakeGould: Whatever you say bro. Need some water?
	10:48pm Kurt Gottschalk: dave, i am sorry. you can have ken delete my account.
	10:48pm jeff fuccillo: Hochenkeit lives on WFMU! Thanks Dave...just put those LPs up at unionpole.com
	10:48pm Kurt Gottschalk: ok, now i'm embarassed. gonna go find some trouble to cause on facebook instead.
	10:49pm Dave Mandl: @Kurt: No, you're OK.
	10:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...lefthanded & backwards, in fact (...deleting my account, that is)...
	10:49pm JakeGould: You see, I predicated it!
	10:49pm P-90: @ Droll: Yeah but most of Stevie Wonder's tracks are played by Herbie Flowers. And sung by Chubby Checker and Sonny Buono, little-known fact
	10:49pm Dave Mandl: @jeff: Da nada.
	10:49pm Kurt Gottschalk: does wfuv have comments boards?
	10:50pm Kurt Gottschalk: man, jakegould is gonna have my show before the year is over. dude is hardcore.
	10:50pm pacific standard simon: Cool your jets -- last week I got in the doghouse for talking about farts too much. OOPS!
	10:51pm Uncle Michael: I keep trying to find the comments at WFUV so I can heckle Marshall Crenshaw but so far, no luck.
	10:51pm Kurt Gottschalk: i misspelled 'embarrassed' above and dave mandl TOTALLY noticed.
	10:51pm Dave Mandl: @pss: Strike 1.
	10:51pm Droll: I heard Kenzo wrote all the code for Facebooks because he writes all the code. Barry Manilow did not write I Write The Songs, but Barry wrote every TV jingle not covered by The Carpenters, and Herbie Flowers plays on most of those records, too.
	10:51pm Dave Mandl: @Kurt: NOW I'm going to have Ken cancel your account.
	10:52pm JakeGould: I misspelled predicted as predicated. So many things going wrong tonight.
	10:53pm P-90: @pss: And I got an email politely but firmly asking me to stop posting so much about Dee Snider.
	10:54pm P-90: @ Jake: You spoiled it! "Predicated" was cuter
	10:54pm Droll: p-90, Me too. I just delete them. Okay folks, looks like tonight has enough mistakes that this one is going to be a do-over. Therese's show is going to need to be rescheduled.
	10:54pm JakeGould: Kurt, I just videotaped you: vine.co...
	10:55pm pacific standard simon: Justified. At least FMU is a free form fight-club-discussion safe harbor.
	10:56pm Kurt Gottschalk: jakegould, quit looking at my soul. p-90, you can post about dee snider on my playlist all you want. dave, it's cool, i deserve it.
	10:57pm P-90: Wasn't "Sassy Goat" one of Herbie Flowers' pseudonyms for session work?
	10:58pm pacific standard simon: Kurt Goat-shock
	11:02pm Droll: . o O ( This mic break is brought to you by ssssibilant ssssyllables )
	11:03pm P-90: Is it still that mike that Ken molested on-air?
	11:04pm Dave Mandl: Still the temporary replacement mic. I miss the real mic.
	11:06pm Uncle Michael: Droll, was it you that recently commented on my mic on an old playlist from January? Or am I mixing you up with some other discerning listener?
	11:07pm JakeGould: I believe that Wimpy goat is more like it. www.youtube.com...
	11:07pm northguineahills: Digging this Bitstream, very late 90s idmish.
	11:09pm Kurt Gottschalk: p90 sassy goat HA!
	11:10pm Droll: um, Not me, I'm still working my way through the epic Loss Leaders show. I'm about halfway through '74 (the pinnacle of rock music). Thanks for playing them in the order they were originally heard -- very important!
	11:12pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: Actually Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders.
	11:12pm Uncle Michael: har har
	11:12pm pacific standard simon: Uncle Michael deserves the Medal of Honor for that one.
	11:13pm Ike: Agreed, NGH. I got a brief flashback to Clay C.'s 90s show, the Pounding System. One of my old faves.
	11:13pm Uncle Michael: The songs were out of order but the albums weren't....except for that one Big Ball track I got out of sequence.
	11:13pm northguineahills: True that, UM's show was epic. Clay C's show was a forever ago, it seems.
	11:13pm Droll: um, I take that back -- I did comment on your mic, but I think I was just responding to your question. You leave many easter eggs for archive listeners.
	11:14pm Uncle Michael: Thanks guys...but enough about me (not really).
	11:15pm pacific standard simon: Why does this "Christopher" remind me of Quicksilver Messenger Service?
	11:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: We are Normal - & we are the 2% !!
	11:18pm P-90: @Pufnstuf Dude: Yes! I had to leave halfway through, but I'll definitely listen to the rest of the "Loss Leaders" epic, at least once. And playing them in order was absolutely the way to go. That may be the ONLY such comprehensive review of those that's ever been done, and they're worth it, an overlooked bit of music biz history. Bravo.
	11:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...that was Jimi w/ BlueCheer - really?...
	11:22pm Uncle Michael: I'm glad people liked that. Sometimes I'm not sure if an idea is goofy or not.
	11:24pm pacific standard simon: By the way, Dave, I heard a version of a Zombies track on my cow orker's Pandora feed today that was definitely a re-recording. Mentioned because of your article on the practice.
	11:24pm Ralphine: Thanks a lot for playing that Zombies tune. It had taken me a couple of days to get Argent's "Hold Your Head Up" out of my head, but now it's back.
	11:24pm P-90: "Loss Leaders Retro" = totally UNgoofy. Exactly the kind of thing that commercial radio (incl. NPR) would never make the time for.
	11:26pm Dave Mandl: @pss: Horrors!
	11:26pm Dave Mandl: @Ralpine: My pleasure. Man, I need to hear that Argent song now. What a great song.
	11:29pm Ike: Brooklyn radio listeners, check this out on Twitter: @BkPirateWatch
	11:29pm Uncle Michael: Is there a link to Dave's article on re-records, Simon?
	11:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - always a fave of mine that Pepper was Abbey Rd. 2 when Floyd's 'Piper' was AbbeyRd. 1 - & then 1st in AR2 after (says Mojo mag.) was Zombies' 'Odessey' (they said - nono - don't disconnect those 4-trax that make more trax than 4 from each other just yet...) - altho' wigkey says 'Odessey' done a few places...
	11:31pm pacific standard simon: I'm sure Dave would have that handier than I. It was around a year ago.
	11:32pm Uncle Michael: I'll google.
	11:33pm Uncle Michael: www.slate.com...
	11:35pm P-90: "CECECD"? or "CECEDC"?
	11:35pm Droll: What was that tuning again? (no irony - seriously)
	11:36pm Dave Mandl: CECECD
	11:36pm P-90: @Pufnstuf Dude: Thanks for the link. Looks cool...
	11:37pm Uncle Michael: I think Dave has exceeded 2% tonight.
	11:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Xactly!! Mentioned this on Trouble's: Original Artist but not Original Version! Old guy vocals w/ cheap keyborads...Bewareness...
	11:39pm Uncle Michael: I got bit in the ass by a re-record of Bobby Goldsboro's "Summer (The First Time)" a few years ago and never fully recovered. Some are so close you get lost in the uncanny valley.
	11:42pm pacific standard simon: That was fast. The article stuck in my head because I'd had a similar experience trying to get music by The Drifters from eMusic. Bad enough that there are fake versions of The Drifters out there performing, but replacing the original songs on digital download sites...
	11:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: (...or was it Nazarios's...yeah...)
	11:46pm northguineahills: Cool, Black Dog!
	11:46pm P-90: Shame on you, Bobby Goldsboro! @ "CECECD" Is really weird, it's not an "open" tuning or a "fourths" tuning, or a slide tuning, just weird. If you Google it you ONLY see it associated with Blackshaw's name. Apparently its a 12-string tuning, but did he tune all the stings in octaves, or just the first four? Must investigate.
	11:55pm Andrew Waterloo: I wonder if Blackshaw is playing a baritone guitar.
	11:56pm Droll: P-90, I love the close-tuned strings like the CD pair, easier to make tight clusters and piano-like voicings. On a 12-string the high E course is going to be clashing with the high D string -- all those notes are going to be crammed in together. Very cool dense sounds!
	11:57pm northguineahills: Thanks Dave, it was a good evening set!
	11:58pm pacific standard simon: Make Therese tell us what she did with Casey Kasem's body! Good night, Dave -- see ya next.
	11:59pm Droll: Thanks, DM. Have a fun week, yinz!
	11:59pm pacific standard simon: Fart.
	12:00am Dave Mandl: Thanks, folks. Have a great week.
	12:00am P-90: @ Droll: Yeah, that's the idea, to generate tons of interesting overtones. Hmm. @DJ Dave : Thanks, great show as always! Reading up now on re-recordings...

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Sifter	Original Blimp "Original Blimp" by "Sifter"	Sifter	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
William Parker	Green Mountain "Green Mountain" by "William Parker"	Solo Bass	0:04:30 (Pop-up)
Charlie Christian	Wholly Cats "Wholly Cats" by "Charlie Christian"	The Original Guitar Hero	0:11:01 (Pop-up)
Cecil Taylor	Luyah! The Glorious Step	The Complete Collection	0:13:22 (Pop-up)

Percy "Thrills" Thrillington	Three Legs	Thrillington	0:30:17 (Pop-up)
J. G. Thirlwell	Blue Eyes Opening	The Blue Eyes	0:34:00 (Pop-up)
Anthony Pateras & Robin Fox	Vox Erratum	Coagulate	0:40:37 (Pop-up)
Chicago Trio	Peace and Blessings "Peace and Blessings" by "Chicago Trio"	Velvet Songs	0:48:52 (Pop-up)

Gary Burton	The Rain Before It Falls	Seven Songs for Quartet and Chamber Orchestra	1:07:43 (Pop-up)
Miles Davis	Sweet Pea "Sweet Pea" by "Miles Davis"	Water Babies	1:12:46 (Pop-up)
Jherek Bischoff	The Nest "The Nest" by "Jherek Bischoff"	Composed	1:21:47 (Pop-up)
Chubby Checker	Goodbye Victoria "Goodbye Victoria" by "Chubby Checker"	Chubby Checker	1:24:47 (Pop-up)

Hochenkeit	Who Can Tell? "Who Can Tell?" by "Hochenkeit"	I Love You	1:36:04 (Pop-up)
Zeena Parkins	The 2 Infinites "The 2 Infinites" by "Zeena Parkins"	Pan-Acousticon	1:39:09 (Pop-up)
B Shops for the Poor	Part 3 "Part 3" by "B Shops for the Poor"	The Iceberg Principle	1:44:24 (Pop-up)

Bitstream	Come and Play With Us "Come and Play With Us" by "Bitstream"	Domestic Economy 7	2:00:44 (Pop-up)
Christopher	Wilbur Lite "Wilbur Lite" by "Christopher"	Christopher	2:09:05 (Pop-up)
Wild Turkey	A Universal Man "A Universal Man" by "Wild Turkey"	Turkey	2:12:49 (Pop-up)
Zombies	If It Don't Work Out "If It Don't Work Out" by "Zombies"	R.I.P.	2:16:42 (Pop-up)
James Blackshaw	Spiralling Skeleton Memorial	O True Believers	2:19:17 (Pop-up)

Curtis Harding	Keep on Shining "Keep on Shining" by "Curtis Harding"	Soul Power	2:33:09 (Pop-up)
Cabaret Voltaire	Do the Mussolini (Headkick)	#7885 Electropunk To Technopop 1978-1985	2:36:19 (Pop-up)
Black Dog Productions	[Track 3] "[Track 3]" by "Black Dog Productions"	(Bytes)	2:38:44 (Pop-up)
Colin Sherman	Indeterminate 2 "Indeterminate 2" by "Colin Sherman"	Indeterminate	2:45:52 (Pop-up)

Quatuor Cassini & Benat Achiary	Horizontal	Le Peuple des Falaises	2:53:40 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:03pm Dave Mandl: Evening, friends.
	9:04pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Evening mr Mandl
	9:05pm duke: Good evening DM and all
	9:06pm Dave Mandl: Hey there, Phillip. Hiya duke.
	9:07pm Dave Mandl: @Phillip: I won't ask you to reveal your exact location, but give me a zip code.
	9:07pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Smokey jazz theme tonight? I like it:-)
	9:08pm P-90: Evening Dave.
	9:09pm Dave Mandl: Howdy, P-90.
	9:09pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): I don't mind:-) I'm in bushwick Brooklyn zip code 11237
	9:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...not Charlie Haden...but I'll bet he likes him...
	9:10pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Been a fan of jazz for years but never really got into the names and the bands.
	9:11pm Dave Mandl: @Phillip: More jazz coming up now. Smokey-ish. @RRN63: Evening!
	9:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - like - in Jazz, Monk is 2nd only to Trane for me - but attaching the Titles to the Songs? ...seriously though - this is stunning...
	9:12pm P-90: Cool. I'm up for some Smokey-ish tonight.
	9:12pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Makes me feel like I'm in a smoke filled nightclub sitting at a table watching the band play while people smoke
	9:13pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): The days when you could smoke in a nightclub and wear a beret and dark glasses
	9:14pm P-90: Charlie C.! Yes!!!!
	9:16pm fleep: Broke open "Hippies" for the first time today, gardening. What a great comp, Dave, worth many repeat plays. And now for something comletely different.
	9:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Speculation on how CharlieC. (electric gittar!) may have been formative to Bop in ways not Recorded. CecilT. !...
	9:18pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): Wish I knew more than Miles Davis and monk and Herbie Hancock
	9:18pm Dave Mandl: Hey there, fleep, and thanks.
	9:19pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): And Charlie "the bird" Parker
	9:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I always thot: Jazz is like Computers: no matter how much you know - there's always...
	9:26pm P-90: CC: Very first ELECTRIC guitar hero, important distinction
	9:31pm Kurt Gottschalk: THRILLINGTON!
	9:31pm Droll: [Shaking head] Jazz is not like computers. Computers break when pushed, but jazz bends.
	9:33pm Dave Mandl: Evening, Droll. KURT!!!
	9:34pm P-90: P. McSmokey strikes
	9:35pm Phillip.(Brooklyn): I do follow you on twitter
	9:36pm I k e: Loving 11232. I was in 11219, 11226, and 11230 earlier today. Anyway, sounds good.
	9:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...in that respect Droll... - Sir Macca...I like the Fireman stuff - which seems to elude Beatlemania & not be distributed to everyone & their cat...Paul critiqued for being Avant when it served his Social Climbing - whereas John was always about 1st Person Expression - but he was earlier than John when John was still Rockist. Also: John reportedly disliked Jazz...
	9:37pm cory: Holy shit, I like a solo Paul McCartney song.
	9:37pm Dave Mandl: Hey there. Ike.
	9:38pm P-90: Thirlling selection. And Smokey too.
	9:38pm Dave Mandl: @RRN63: Hard to argue with that. McCartney could be a social-climber and a dabbler. Did do some pretty great music, though.
	9:39pm Dave Mandl: @cory: Glad to have been responsible for that.
	9:40pm Dave Mandl: BTW, Mr. Kurt recently did a pretty extensive and excellent piece on McCartney's solo career.
	9:40pm Dave Mandl: @Kurt: I don't have the link handy. Can you post it?
	9:41pm fleep: OK, followed you, now totally informed about erratic PATH train behavior.
	9:42pm Dave Mandl: We may have lost Kurt. If so, I know I've got the link somewhere.
	9:44pm Dave Mandl: Here it is: oneweekoneband.tumblr.com...
	9:45pm P-90: Thanks Dave, eager to read that
	9:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...it's like decades were spent debunking the idea that John was Words & Paul was Melody - but now oscillating back to the idea that Lennon was Ideas & tended to sing Monotones - & Paul was the Melodic Genius of Rock who tended to go 'lala deedee' ...all this from Tim Riley's book 'Tell Me Why', btw...
	9:46pm Dave Mandl: @fleep: Not that big a deal, but it was very strange. PATH train drives to the wrong station (a station that's not even open), then announces that it's at a different station.
	9:50pm Kurt Gottschalk: oh gosh, thanks dave! (sorry, i'm btw tasks over here). here's a link for the mccartney thing with all the posts in reverse order. i thought there was a better one but maybe not. oneweekoneband.tumblr.com...
	9:52pm Ike: The Port Authority is v. incompetent lately and esp. doesn't give a flying rat's rump about weekend or late night passengers, but that really crowns it, Dave. Glad to be mainly riding MTA now, they look quite solid by comparison.
	9:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: ok, here's a link where you don't have to stand on your head while reading: oneweekoneband.tumblr.com... i hate how blogs make the world upside down.
	9:56pm pacific standard simon: Good evening Dave and the usual suspects. Gotta eat dinner before I can hang with y'all.
	9:56pm Dave Mandl: Hey, pss. Yeah, sustenance comes first.
	10:02pm Kurt Gottschalk: chicago underground duo, chicago underground trio, chicago underground quartet ... was there a quintet too?
	10:03pm Kurt Gottschalk: and i know there's at least a couple 45+ minute art ensemble of chicago tracks, that'll get you a lot of the way there.
	10:04pm Kurt Gottschalk: pretty sure paul doesn't play on thrillington.
	10:04pm Droll: 3,589 bands with Chicago in their name, 9,487 bands with "New York" in their name. That was definitely Sir Paul on bass, which sounded out of place with the orchestral arrangements.
	10:06pm Kurt Gottschalk: really, droll? def? i was under the impression paul wasn't on the sessions.
	10:08pm Kurt Gottschalk: don't listen to dave. him, irwin and evan are all real drummers.
	10:10pm Kurt Gottschalk: i know it's not definitive but wikipedia credits herbie flowers with bass on thrillington, who could sound like paul for sure - especially if he decided to try!
	10:11pm Kurt Gottschalk: i'm starting to think i've finished working for the night. did judy chicago make any records?
	10:11pm Droll: kg, Someone's playing electric bass along with that track. It had that McCartney phrasing that leads the chord changes... If it's not Paul, they aped his sound and style for sure.
	10:12pm Uncle Michael: Harry the hairy Ape vs. Guitarzan
	10:14pm Kurt Gottschalk: i'm willing to go with herbie flowers, droll. from what i've read, paul worked with richard hewson in planning the record and arrangements but wasn't present for the recordings.
	10:15pm Kurt Gottschalk: but diamond dave mandl would probably know, if he'd just quit dj'ing for a dang minute.
	10:16pm Uncle Michael: The only Richard Hewson stuff I know is the Melody soundtrack. I should know more.
	10:17pm Dave Mandl: @Kurt: No, I don't. I was guessing, because that's obviously a bass guitar and could be him. I'm sure what you've read is right. Anything any Beatle has done has been documented and researched by a million people.
	10:18pm P-90: For what it's worth, I ve put my time in studying Paul's playing too, and I heard McCartney-INfluenced playing on that track, not Paul himself. I could be wrong of course...
	10:18pm listener phillip in brooklyn: ahhhhh:-) Miles Davis
	10:19pm Dave Mandl: @Phillip: Yeah, it's Hooked on Jazz Classics tonight.
	10:20pm Kurt Gottschalk: richard hewson did phil spector's arrangements for some 'let it be' tracks as well. 'the long and winding road' and maybe the title tune.
	10:20pm Droll: kg, I could believe Herbie Flowers, but the likeness is still uncanny. If that question is the most interesting part of the album, we've all failed: composers, performer, and listener.
	10:22pm JakeGould: Hey there, Jazz-night.
	10:22pm Kurt Gottschalk: that question is not the most interesting part of the album. i like that album a lot. but that's the question that was raised. herbie played with lou reed, elton john, t-rex, etc. i have no doubt he could ape paul mccartney if asked.
	10:22pm P-90: @Droll: NOT the most interesting part by a any means.
	10:23pm Dave Mandl: Agreed, it's a very good record.
	10:23pm northguineahills: Ahh, Sunday night....
	10:29pm pacific standard simon: OK, I'm back. Just in time for a really weird record, it seems.
	10:30pm Dave Mandl: Psychedelic Chubby Checker. Nothing to see here.
	10:31pm Kurt Gottschalk: hahaha!
	10:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: dave, i am glad to see you have your full name on your friendship soc sign-in. i never changed mine and was starting to feel UNCOOL!
	10:32pm Uncle Michael: This is sensational.
	10:33pm Kurt Gottschalk: there's no way chubby checker is on that record. gotta be herbie flowers.
	10:35pm Uncle Michael: Check it. www.discogs.com...
	10:35pm pacific standard simon: They asked Chubbs and he said he was too stoned on Amsterdam weed to remember.
	10:36pm Kurt Gottschalk: blog.wfmu.org...
	10:39pm P-90: I'd like to believe it was Chubby.. I liked that it wasn't just "Psychedelic", it was Gospel-flavored Psychedelic. If Chubby didn't do it he SHOULD have.
	10:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...yer can Surf on Heroin - yer can Twist on Acid...loosen up youzeguys...
	10:39pm Kurt Gottschalk: here's a post with more info and a dl link that appars to be broken
	10:40pm Kurt Gottschalk: twilightzone-rideyourpony.blogspot.com...
	10:40pm Dave Mandl: Ah, I hadn't seen that blog post. Seemed no reason to doubt it was Chubby, but I'd never seen definite confirmation. I'm guessing the producer did all the real work.
	10:40pm pacific standard simon: Yeah, I'll listen to ANY record that features a "quadrangularus reversum"!
	10:42pm Kurt Gottschalk: i was goofing about it not being chubby, re: mccartney / herbie flowers discussion above.
	10:43pm Droll: I thing Paul might played all the instruments on the Chubby Checker record because I read Paul plays everything.
	10:44pm Kurt Gottschalk: prince played all the instruments on the chubby checker record but he won't release the tapes.
	10:44pm Kurt Gottschalk: herbie flowers is filling in for dave mandl tonight.
	10:44pm P-90: I wanna hear the Chubby track that sounds like 'Jimi Hendrix Jamming with Blue Cheer"
	10:45pm JakeGould: Prince is great. Just need to say that since I am rediscovering Prince.
	10:45pm pacific standard simon: And the part of Chubby Checker was played by Paul Winchell!
	10:45pm northguineahills: This Zeena Parkins is new to me, quite nice....
	10:45pm Kurt Gottschalk: prince is amaze. just need to say that because jakegould said that.
	10:46pm JakeGould: Kurt is amaze balls because I think Kurt is at that high/drunk point where if I don’t agree with him it will be all awkward.
	10:47pm Droll: kg, Wrong again -- Stevie Wonder plays all the instruments on Prince records.
	10:47pm Kurt Gottschalk: jakegould you are very wise.
	10:47pm pacific standard simon: Can I be ring bearer at your wedding?
	10:47pm Kurt Gottschalk: droll, prince paid stevie wonder to play all the instruments on all his records so same thing.
	10:47pm JakeGould: Whatever you say bro. Need some water?
	10:48pm Kurt Gottschalk: dave, i am sorry. you can have ken delete my account.
	10:48pm jeff fuccillo: Hochenkeit lives on WFMU! Thanks Dave...just put those LPs up at unionpole.com
	10:48pm Kurt Gottschalk: ok, now i'm embarassed. gonna go find some trouble to cause on facebook instead.
	10:49pm Dave Mandl: @Kurt: No, you're OK.
	10:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...lefthanded & backwards, in fact (...deleting my account, that is)...
	10:49pm JakeGould: You see, I predicated it!
	10:49pm P-90: @ Droll: Yeah but most of Stevie Wonder's tracks are played by Herbie Flowers. And sung by Chubby Checker and Sonny Buono, little-known fact
	10:49pm Dave Mandl: @jeff: Da nada.
	10:49pm Kurt Gottschalk: does wfuv have comments boards?
	10:50pm Kurt Gottschalk: man, jakegould is gonna have my show before the year is over. dude is hardcore.
	10:50pm pacific standard simon: Cool your jets -- last week I got in the doghouse for talking about farts too much. OOPS!
	10:51pm Uncle Michael: I keep trying to find the comments at WFUV so I can heckle Marshall Crenshaw but so far, no luck.
	10:51pm Kurt Gottschalk: i misspelled 'embarrassed' above and dave mandl TOTALLY noticed.
	10:51pm Dave Mandl: @pss: Strike 1.
	10:51pm Droll: I heard Kenzo wrote all the code for Facebooks because he writes all the code. Barry Manilow did not write I Write The Songs, but Barry wrote every TV jingle not covered by The Carpenters, and Herbie Flowers plays on most of those records, too.
	10:51pm Dave Mandl: @Kurt: NOW I'm going to have Ken cancel your account.
	10:52pm JakeGould: I misspelled predicted as predicated. So many things going wrong tonight.
	10:53pm P-90: @pss: And I got an email politely but firmly asking me to stop posting so much about Dee Snider.
	10:54pm P-90: @ Jake: You spoiled it! "Predicated" was cuter
	10:54pm Droll: p-90, Me too. I just delete them. Okay folks, looks like tonight has enough mistakes that this one is going to be a do-over. Therese's show is going to need to be rescheduled.
	10:54pm JakeGould: Kurt, I just videotaped you: vine.co...
	10:55pm pacific standard simon: Justified. At least FMU is a free form fight-club-discussion safe harbor.
	10:56pm Kurt Gottschalk: jakegould, quit looking at my soul. p-90, you can post about dee snider on my playlist all you want. dave, it's cool, i deserve it.
	10:57pm P-90: Wasn't "Sassy Goat" one of Herbie Flowers' pseudonyms for session work?
	10:58pm pacific standard simon: Kurt Goat-shock
	11:02pm Droll: . o O ( This mic break is brought to you by ssssibilant ssssyllables )
	11:03pm P-90: Is it still that mike that Ken molested on-air?
	11:04pm Dave Mandl: Still the temporary replacement mic. I miss the real mic.
	11:06pm Uncle Michael: Droll, was it you that recently commented on my mic on an old playlist from January? Or am I mixing you up with some other discerning listener?
	11:07pm JakeGould: I believe that Wimpy goat is more like it. www.youtube.com...
	11:07pm northguineahills: Digging this Bitstream, very late 90s idmish.
	11:09pm Kurt Gottschalk: p90 sassy goat HA!
	11:10pm Droll: um, Not me, I'm still working my way through the epic Loss Leaders show. I'm about halfway through '74 (the pinnacle of rock music). Thanks for playing them in the order they were originally heard -- very important!
	11:12pm Dave Mandl: @Droll: Actually Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders.
	11:12pm Uncle Michael: har har
	11:12pm pacific standard simon: Uncle Michael deserves the Medal of Honor for that one.
	11:13pm Ike: Agreed, NGH. I got a brief flashback to Clay C.'s 90s show, the Pounding System. One of my old faves.
	11:13pm Uncle Michael: The songs were out of order but the albums weren't....except for that one Big Ball track I got out of sequence.
	11:13pm northguineahills: True that, UM's show was epic. Clay C's show was a forever ago, it seems.
	11:13pm Droll: um, I take that back -- I did comment on your mic, but I think I was just responding to your question. You leave many easter eggs for archive listeners.
	11:14pm Uncle Michael: Thanks guys...but enough about me (not really).
	11:15pm pacific standard simon: Why does this "Christopher" remind me of Quicksilver Messenger Service?
	11:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: We are Normal - & we are the 2% !!
	11:18pm P-90: @Pufnstuf Dude: Yes! I had to leave halfway through, but I'll definitely listen to the rest of the "Loss Leaders" epic, at least once. And playing them in order was absolutely the way to go. That may be the ONLY such comprehensive review of those that's ever been done, and they're worth it, an overlooked bit of music biz history. Bravo.
	11:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...that was Jimi w/ BlueCheer - really?...
	11:22pm Uncle Michael: I'm glad people liked that. Sometimes I'm not sure if an idea is goofy or not.
	11:24pm pacific standard simon: By the way, Dave, I heard a version of a Zombies track on my cow orker's Pandora feed today that was definitely a re-recording. Mentioned because of your article on the practice.
	11:24pm Ralphine: Thanks a lot for playing that Zombies tune. It had taken me a couple of days to get Argent's "Hold Your Head Up" out of my head, but now it's back.
	11:24pm P-90: "Loss Leaders Retro" = totally UNgoofy. Exactly the kind of thing that commercial radio (incl. NPR) would never make the time for.
	11:26pm Dave Mandl: @pss: Horrors!
	11:26pm Dave Mandl: @Ralpine: My pleasure. Man, I need to hear that Argent song now. What a great song.
	11:29pm Ike: Brooklyn radio listeners, check this out on Twitter: @BkPirateWatch
	11:29pm Uncle Michael: Is there a link to Dave's article on re-records, Simon?
	11:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - always a fave of mine that Pepper was Abbey Rd. 2 when Floyd's 'Piper' was AbbeyRd. 1 - & then 1st in AR2 after (says Mojo mag.) was Zombies' 'Odessey' (they said - nono - don't disconnect those 4-trax that make more trax than 4 from each other just yet...) - altho' wigkey says 'Odessey' done a few places...
	11:31pm pacific standard simon: I'm sure Dave would have that handier than I. It was around a year ago.
	11:32pm Uncle Michael: I'll google.
	11:33pm Uncle Michael: www.slate.com...
	11:35pm P-90: "CECECD"? or "CECEDC"?
	11:35pm Droll: What was that tuning again? (no irony - seriously)
	11:36pm Dave Mandl: CECECD
	11:36pm P-90: @Pufnstuf Dude: Thanks for the link. Looks cool...
	11:37pm Uncle Michael: I think Dave has exceeded 2% tonight.
	11:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Xactly!! Mentioned this on Trouble's: Original Artist but not Original Version! Old guy vocals w/ cheap keyborads...Bewareness...
	11:39pm Uncle Michael: I got bit in the ass by a re-record of Bobby Goldsboro's "Summer (The First Time)" a few years ago and never fully recovered. Some are so close you get lost in the uncanny valley.
	11:42pm pacific standard simon: That was fast. The article stuck in my head because I'd had a similar experience trying to get music by The Drifters from eMusic. Bad enough that there are fake versions of The Drifters out there performing, but replacing the original songs on digital download sites...
	11:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: (...or was it Nazarios's...yeah...)
	11:46pm northguineahills: Cool, Black Dog!
	11:46pm P-90: Shame on you, Bobby Goldsboro! @ "CECECD" Is really weird, it's not an "open" tuning or a "fourths" tuning, or a slide tuning, just weird. If you Google it you ONLY see it associated with Blackshaw's name. Apparently its a 12-string tuning, but did he tune all the stings in octaves, or just the first four? Must investigate.
	11:55pm Andrew Waterloo: I wonder if Blackshaw is playing a baritone guitar.
	11:56pm Droll: P-90, I love the close-tuned strings like the CD pair, easier to make tight clusters and piano-like voicings. On a 12-string the high E course is going to be clashing with the high D string -- all those notes are going to be crammed in together. Very cool dense sounds!
	11:57pm northguineahills: Thanks Dave, it was a good evening set!
	11:58pm pacific standard simon: Make Therese tell us what she did with Casey Kasem's body! Good night, Dave -- see ya next.
	11:59pm Droll: Thanks, DM. Have a fun week, yinz!
	11:59pm pacific standard simon: Fart.
	12:00am Dave Mandl: Thanks, folks. Have a great week.
	12:00am P-90: @ Droll: Yeah, that's the idea, to generate tons of interesting overtones. Hmm. @DJ Dave : Thanks, great show as always! Reading up now on re-recordings...

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from July 20, 2014

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