WFMU: World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from December 21, 2014

Listener comments!
	9:03pm Dave Mandl: Good evening and happy holidays, all.
	9:04pm P-90: And Happy Holidays to you, Dave.
	9:05pm Ike: That was funny! What happened there?
	9:07pm Dave Mandl: I misjudged how long the track was, and got distracted in a conversation with Daniel and Joe. You know, the usual.
	9:08pm P-90: Plus, you know, the Nog.
	9:09pm Dave Mandl: I wish.
	9:09pm pacific standard simon: Is this World of Chloe?
	9:10pm Carmichael: Nog. I just love to say nog.
	9:11pm Dave Mandl: @pss: Don't call me Chloe.
	9:11pm P-90: Happy Holidays, pss, and to Mrs. pss! Vibes getting merry yet out there on the Island?
	9:12pm Dave Mandl: BTW, welcome P-90, Ike, pss, Carmichael. Hope you're all filled with seasonal joy.
	9:13pm pacific standard simon: The Mrs. just announced that she is not a fan of Fred Frith and John Butcher. Her exact words were "Oh my God..."
	9:14pm BDR: Can I listen and not be filled with seasonal joy? And a unique, if not strangest, vibe to your Brooklyn than you've lived?
	9:15pm Dave Mandl: @BDR: But of course. @pss: My apologies to the wife.
	9:16pm pacific standard simon: I'm scheduled to work on Christmas, so there's only so much seasonal joy available to me.
	9:17pm pacific standard simon: @Dave - Awww, she's a wimp!
	9:18pm P-90: Have patience, she'll come around. Or not.
	9:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: These guys turned up 613 anagrams for worldofecho - www.wordsmith.org...
	9:24pm pacific standard simon: "Cow held roof" -- that's good.
	9:24pm P-90: "Coed for howl"!!!
	9:25pm P-90: "Chew rod fool" Hm.
	9:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Happy longer daylight hereon in Northern Hemisphere Echo-ites...I barely dare look @ those KenfHP...
	9:26pm Dave Mandl: @Ken: Wow, thanks. Arthur Russell would be proud.
	9:27pm P-90: @RR: Merry Soulstice and joyeux anagrammes!
	9:29pm Dave Mandl: Evening, RRN63.
	9:29pm Carmichael: The local pub is on my way to and from shopping. So yes, I am full of seasonal joy.
	9:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always glad to be here DM ! Indeed P-90 !! Let us immerse... Code Of Whorl, Credo Flow Oh, Credo Of Howl,Cowherd Of Lo, Chowder Of Lo...
	9:31pm pacific standard simon: Merry Christmas = Mr. Racist Rhymes
	9:33pm Ken From Hyde Park: Clod Her Woof, Cod Flower Oh, Howler Of Doc
	9:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...dreaming of a White Xmas pss?... Decor Fowl Oh, Decor Wolf Oh, Coder Flow Oh, Cold Whore Of, Cold Her Woof...
	9:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cow Led For Oh
	9:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cow Old Her Of Cow Lord He Of ...okay well - you see the page well as I do...
	9:37pm JakeGould: Na Zdrowie!
	9:38pm Mike Sin: Hey Dave, just settling in tonight. Looking forward to listening tonight. I remember that Impossible Five album... way back in the 20th century!
	9:39pm Dave Mandl: Hey Mike! I know, so last-century.
	9:40pm Dave Mandl: Heya, Jake.
	9:40pm pacific standard simon: I remember the 20th Century like it was yesterday...
	9:41pm Dave Mandl: Boy, what a mess this song is.
	9:41pm BDR: Baal, I love Nilsson. I've never heard this demo. Wowee.
	9:41pm fleep: Ouch.
	9:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...problem is - Badfinger version missing a leettle something after Harry...
	9:42pm pacific standard simon: Proof of concept, I guess.
	9:42pm Dave Mandl: BDR: I do too, but this wasn't one of his best days.
	9:43pm Listener Kringle: "Cow rod elf ho", ho ho!
	9:43pm BDR: I like hearing the sausage made.
	9:44pm P-90: I kinda prefer the demo: pure, without the layered schmaltz.
	9:44pm JakeGould: If that was demo, that final song is… What. Wow, Nilsson!
	9:45pm pacific standard simon: Nothing tops the singalong demo of "Telstar".
	9:46pm Lonely Planet Boy: always loved this Newman track
	9:46pm Dave Mandl: @LPB: It's hilarious.
	9:48pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hey, it's the piano player from Colbert's final show!
	9:49pm adrian in mpls: This Newman song is making my night!!!
	9:51pm pacific standard simon: It was nice to see Newman there. I'm sure that not all the people who sang on that show actually watched the Colbert Report, but I bet Newman does.
	10:05pm adrian in mpls: I'm going to echo yr sentiment Dave, but that Davies line about privacy seems downright quaint when considering when it was written. Especially considering everything that comes after....
	10:08pm Dave Mandl: @adrian: Absolutely. He didn't realize how good things were in '71.
	10:13pm pacific standard simon: Irony. That's one of Davies' most common themes -- you don't know how good you have it till it's gone.
	10:14pm adrian in mpls: Although, to be fair, 1971 was also the year that I think COINTELPRO was exposed....
	10:16pm Prog Police: It didn't top out until '74.
	10:17pm pacific standard simon: AM radio was SO AWFUL in 1971. Little did we know...
	10:17pm Carmichael: Dave D. was the perfect weary British soul. Lazing on a sunny afternoon ...
	10:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Kinks' song 'Party Line' off 'Face to Face' about unsecure phone connections...how quaint indeed...
	10:21pm JakeGould: A “Party Line” is just a group line for cheap-os back in the day. Everyone shared when they were cheap back then.
	10:22pm pacific standard simon: My family had a party-line phone in '65.
	10:23pm glenn: actually.....party line is about politics.
	10:25pm Mugsy: So it's about lying.
	10:25pm JakeGould: Here is that cover. www.robbierocks.ch...
	10:25pm P-90: I remember when Hypgnosis were the hyppest.
	10:25pm Mugsy: Veggie man!
	10:26pm Carmichael: Hypgnosis was Storm Thorgeson.
	10:27pm adrian in mpls: holy moses - that cover is pretty gross!
	10:28pm pacific standard simon: Good of you to leave your share of the world's meat to me!
	10:29pm Mugsy: My share goes to my wife. Dirty carnivore!
	10:29pm pacific standard simon: That cat Shaft is a baaad melonfarmer!
	10:30pm pacific standard simon: Always leave a plate of bacon out for Santa.
	10:32pm glenn: shut yo mouf.
	10:33pm Dave Mandl: @Carmichael: There were a few other people in Hipgnosis, including Peter Christopherson of Throbbing Gristle!
	10:35pm JakeGould: Excellent, fan-made Hipgnosis covers site here. www.hipgnosiscovers.com
	10:37pm Carmichael: Yes Dave, didn't mean to simplify things. My experiences had always been with Thorgerson himself.
	10:38pm Dave Mandl: @Carmichael: He was the main man, definitely.
	10:38pm HollyT: Greetings from Florida, Dave!
	10:39pm Dave Mandl: @Jake: That's great, thanks.
	10:39pm Dave Mandl: @Holly: Hey! Thanks for dropping by. How are things in the land of the crocodiles?
	10:42pm P-90: In the 70's, the Hypgnosis team deliberately kept a low profile, they enjoyed having a little air of mystery surrounding who they actually were. I remember "Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" and "Wish You Were Here" were two of theirs that everyone knew and talked about. And rolled joints on.
	10:44pm glenn: man. that's a LOT of album covers.
	10:53pm HollyT: Fine. Band rehearsal tonight! :) We're playing a show on the 28th
	10:54pm Dave Mandl: Cool. Where, Orlando?
	10:55pm pacific standard simon: Hipgnosis always seemed a little too precious, to me.
	10:57pm tr:sh: Pretty piano. Barron + bass is lovely. I know the Haden/Barron album but not this one. Pretty piano and bass.
	11:00pm P-90: pss: if "precious" can mean "self-consciously clever, flashy, inventive without subtlety, commercial art that attempts to draw as much or more attention to itself as to the thing it's promoting", you're right.
	11:03pm JakeGould: Hipgnosis was precious when they were bad. For example the cover to “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap” is quite a prime example of that. So bullshit when you think of it.
	11:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Rich Hazelton would like those Hipgnosis visuals.
	11:04pm Mugsy: Very relieved
	11:06pm JakeGould: Then you look at the original band approved Australian cover to “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap” and you realize it’s the less of two evils. Jeez this cover sucks. cdn.discogs.com...
	11:06pm ifny: Thank you for providing a holiday-music free zone; you have my eternal and impassioned gratitude. Stay the course. I'm just going to hide in here as long as I can...
	11:06pm tr:sh: Xmas/holiday music is like a party guest that arrives too early and makes the party all about the xmas/holiday music.
	11:08pm HollyT: Yep.
	11:09pm Carmichael: Boy, everyone seems to be full of piss and vinegar tonight.
	11:10pm P-90: Yeah, stuff that looked so "original" and "radical" because it broke with traditional design styles at the time can look a little shallow and naively gimmicky a few decades later. Also, when you make a big impression with something "different" and "quirky", new clients flock to you for something "different" and "quirky" in the same way as what you've already done. So you wind up cranking things out in a "house style" that quickly loses it's novelty.
	11:15pm JakeGould: Is this the original Carole King version?
	11:15pm pacific standard simon: Mind you, the cover of Pink Floyd's A Nice Pair worked BECAUSE it was a collection of gimmicks and cheap jokes, enclosing a re-packaging of old material.
	11:15pm P-90: Like the production on this.
	11:16pm Dave Mandl: @Jake: It's an early demo.
	11:17pm JakeGould: I knew I could hear that Yid voice come through.
	11:18pm P-90: *choking on Nog"
	11:18pm pacific standard simon: Compared the Carole King demo of "Road To Nowhere" with Buffy St. Marie's version -- it sounded like someone had just stripped King's vocals off the tape and had St. Marie sing over it.
	11:19pm mark Flynn: I can't believe this guy is only 24.
	11:20pm pacific standard simon: @Carmichael - I'm full of pss and vinegar.
	11:23pm mark Flynn: Referring to Ryley Walker
	11:24pm Ken From Hyde Park: I burned some rice on the bottom of a pan one time and when I let it soak in vinegar, the blackened bits finally came loose. Soap & scrubbing weren't getting them off.
	11:26pm JakeGould: “I burned some rice on the bottom of a pan one time and when I let it soak in vinegar, the blackened bits finally came loose. Soap & scrubbing weren't getting them off.” What I usually do in a case like that is boil water in a pot, then pour that water into the pan with a little vinegar and salt. Let that simmer for a while. Then I drain that cleaning brine away and scrub. Works!
	11:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Jake. In other helpful household hints, I understand vinegar on shower tiles can help stave off mold & mildew.
	11:32pm pacific standard simon: Also, if you're trying to cut down your salt intake, small amounts of vinegar can enhance the flavor of food in the same way that salt does.
	11:34pm CorrectUseOfSoup: Regarding the original "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap" its one of my favorite's, can't stand the US artwork. Great show by the way Mr Mandl the Carol King song ruled.
	11:36pm P-90: Figure9s0 in a doorway: a universal symbol of alienation from the status quo and rugged individualism. The director John Ford would frequently photograph John Wayne's cowboy/frontiersmen characters framed in doorways...
	11:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: If you're pestered by flies, you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.
	11:40pm pacific standard simon: Do not, however, try to keep flies out of your horse's eyes by throwing vinegar in its face. The horse will not appreciate your action.
	11:40pm P-90: [Figure(s)...] Also: a 50% dilution of drugstore hydrogen peroxide solution can be lightly sprayed around the toilet to instantly eradicate any of that lingering "stale urine" smell that can be hard to get rid of.
	11:42pm pacific standard simon: Urine over your head now...
	11:43pm P-90: It's the Nog, I tell you.
	11:44pm JakeGould: Ken, I make a cleaning spray that is equal parts water, white vinegar and 91% rubbing alcohol and it cleans really well. Including tiles. So there you go!
	11:45pm pacific standard simon: Nog-gone it!
	11:45pm JakeGould: Also, I know no Christmas stuff on this show, but just wanted to say found a good/full clip of the ending to “Smoke” with Auggie Wren’s Christmas story. I think it’s one of the most underrated NYC film moments ever. vimeo.com...
	11:46pm P-90: Also makes a bracing toddy at bedtime, no?
	11:46pm Mugsy: Nice ride tonite Dave Mandl, enjoy your week
	11:47pm Dave Mandl: @Mugsy: Thanks. And you.
	11:47pm JakeGould: I don’t understand why people get upset at cleaning a toilet. Just grab a sponge, grab some scouring powder and just go in there. 5 seconds later it’s all better!
	11:48pm JakeGould: P-90: I drink the brine from the pan cleaning solution to remind me of all past meals I had in that pan. Brisk!
	11:48pm Dave Mandl: A great holiday and a fun-filled 2015 to everyone.
	11:49pm adrian in mpls: Cheers everyone! Thanks for a wonderful show, Dave.
	11:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: Six more months to the next solstice!
	11:49pm pacific standard simon: 2% rock on, Dave.
	11:51pm Dave Mandl: @pss: Haha. Thanks. @adrian: Thanks. Stay warm in Mpls.
	11:53pm P-90: Thanks for another year of Sunday eves, Dave!
	11:54pm mark Flynn: 5% from me. Feeling good tonight.
	11:55pm pacific standard simon: I'll try to hang in there, even after baseball season starts again.
	11:55pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, all. Really appreciate you being here every week.
	11:55pm tr:sh: Happy Soullllllstice Solstice day. Axial tilts and elliptical paths and all that.
	11:55pm Dave Mandl: @mark: You're being too generous.
	11:55pm JakeGould: Remember: The sunset happens a small amount of time later than it did before the solstice now!
	11:58pm pacific standard simon: This time of year, this far north, it starts getting dark around 3:30.
	11:59pm P-90: "doc el for who"
	12:00am Thomas: <3 Intersystems
	12:03am mark Flynn: Who's doing this version of the Stones?

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from December 21, 2014

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December 21, 2014

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Artist	Track	Album	Approx. start time
Anne Clark	The Sitting Room "The Sitting Room" by "Anne Clark"	The Sitting Room	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Peter Lang	Little Cairo "Little Cairo" by "Peter Lang"	Guitar	0:00:19 (Pop-up)
Fred Frith and John Butcher	Dance First, Think Later	The Natural Order	0:05:05 (Pop-up)
Andreas Wagner	Schwarm der Mischwesen	V/A: Noise of Cologne 2	0:08:32 (Pop-up)

Liz de Lux	Sur le Dancefloor "Sur le Dancefloor" by "Liz de Lux"	V/A: Le Pop 8: Les Chansons de la Nouvelle Scene Francaise	0:19:36 (Pop-up)
The Impossible Five	The Laurentian Abyssal	Eleven Hours in Antwerp	0:22:45 (Pop-up)
Bonobo	Heaven for the Sinner "Heaven for the Sinner" by "Bonobo"	The North Borders Tour	0:25:37 (Pop-up)
Les Tueurs de La Lune de Miel	Trois Petites Notes de Musique	Special Manubre	0:30:25 (Pop-up)
Harry Nilsson	Without You (demo) "Without You (demo)" by "Harry Nilsson"	The RCA Albums Collection	0:33:53 (Pop-up)
Randy Newman	My Life Is Good "My Life Is Good" by "Randy Newman"	Guilty: 30 Years of Randy Newman	0:38:10 (Pop-up)

The Kinks	20th Century Man "20th Century Man" by "The Kinks"	Muswell Hillbillies	0:51:59 (Pop-up)
Edgar Broughton Band	Hotel Room "Hotel Room" by "Edgar Broughton Band"	Edgar Broughton Band	0:57:33 (Pop-up)
Pip Proud and Tom Carter	Pig Song	Catch a Cherub	1:02:14 (Pop-up)
Clair Obscur	Hear My Voice "Hear My Voice" by "Clair Obscur"	A Collection of Isolated Tracks 1981-1988	1:07:26 (Pop-up)
King Tubby Meets Lee Perry	Open the Gage Dub	Megawatt Dub	1:12:02 (Pop-up)

Lawrence English + Stephen Vitiello	Forecast the Dawn	Fable	1:26:28 (Pop-up)
Weyes Blood	Land of Broken Dreams	The Innocents	1:31:50 (Pop-up)
Invisible Hands	Places "Places" by "Invisible Hands"	Teslam	1:35:54 (Pop-up)
Indigo Trio	Sho Ya Right "Sho Ya Right" by "Indigo Trio"	Anaya	1:40:22 (Pop-up)
Kenny Barron & Dave Holland	The Oracle	The Art of Conversation	1:48:35 (Pop-up)

Harry Partch	Castor & Pollux (excerpts)	Plectra and Percussion Dances	2:00:44 (Pop-up)
Carole King	Pleasant Valley Sunday	The Legendary Demos	2:07:49 (Pop-up)
Ryley Walker	The West Wind "The West Wind" by "Ryley Walker"	All Kinds of You	2:10:09 (Pop-up)
Brad Laner	Vecino "Vecino" by "Brad Laner"	Neighbor Singing	2:15:20 (Pop-up)
Roger Kellaway	Morning Song "Morning Song" by "Roger Kellaway"	Cello Quartet	2:19:29 (Pop-up)

Intersystems	Grand Piano "Grand Piano" by "Intersystems"	Peachy	2:32:24 (Pop-up)
Charlemagne Palestine/Rhys Chatham	First (excerpt)	Youuu + Mee = Weeee	2:36:20 (Pop-up)
West Hill Blast Quartet	Bumble Beam	Blast #2	2:45:58 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:03pm Dave Mandl: Good evening and happy holidays, all.
	9:04pm P-90: And Happy Holidays to you, Dave.
	9:05pm Ike: That was funny! What happened there?
	9:07pm Dave Mandl: I misjudged how long the track was, and got distracted in a conversation with Daniel and Joe. You know, the usual.
	9:08pm P-90: Plus, you know, the Nog.
	9:09pm Dave Mandl: I wish.
	9:09pm pacific standard simon: Is this World of Chloe?
	9:10pm Carmichael: Nog. I just love to say nog.
	9:11pm Dave Mandl: @pss: Don't call me Chloe.
	9:11pm P-90: Happy Holidays, pss, and to Mrs. pss! Vibes getting merry yet out there on the Island?
	9:12pm Dave Mandl: BTW, welcome P-90, Ike, pss, Carmichael. Hope you're all filled with seasonal joy.
	9:13pm pacific standard simon: The Mrs. just announced that she is not a fan of Fred Frith and John Butcher. Her exact words were "Oh my God..."
	9:14pm BDR: Can I listen and not be filled with seasonal joy? And a unique, if not strangest, vibe to your Brooklyn than you've lived?
	9:15pm Dave Mandl: @BDR: But of course. @pss: My apologies to the wife.
	9:16pm pacific standard simon: I'm scheduled to work on Christmas, so there's only so much seasonal joy available to me.
	9:17pm pacific standard simon: @Dave - Awww, she's a wimp!
	9:18pm P-90: Have patience, she'll come around. Or not.
	9:21pm Ken From Hyde Park: These guys turned up 613 anagrams for worldofecho - www.wordsmith.org...
	9:24pm pacific standard simon: "Cow held roof" -- that's good.
	9:24pm P-90: "Coed for howl"!!!
	9:25pm P-90: "Chew rod fool" Hm.
	9:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Happy longer daylight hereon in Northern Hemisphere Echo-ites...I barely dare look @ those KenfHP...
	9:26pm Dave Mandl: @Ken: Wow, thanks. Arthur Russell would be proud.
	9:27pm P-90: @RR: Merry Soulstice and joyeux anagrammes!
	9:29pm Dave Mandl: Evening, RRN63.
	9:29pm Carmichael: The local pub is on my way to and from shopping. So yes, I am full of seasonal joy.
	9:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Always glad to be here DM ! Indeed P-90 !! Let us immerse... Code Of Whorl, Credo Flow Oh, Credo Of Howl,Cowherd Of Lo, Chowder Of Lo...
	9:31pm pacific standard simon: Merry Christmas = Mr. Racist Rhymes
	9:33pm Ken From Hyde Park: Clod Her Woof, Cod Flower Oh, Howler Of Doc
	9:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...dreaming of a White Xmas pss?... Decor Fowl Oh, Decor Wolf Oh, Coder Flow Oh, Cold Whore Of, Cold Her Woof...
	9:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cow Led For Oh
	9:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cow Old Her Of Cow Lord He Of ...okay well - you see the page well as I do...
	9:37pm JakeGould: Na Zdrowie!
	9:38pm Mike Sin: Hey Dave, just settling in tonight. Looking forward to listening tonight. I remember that Impossible Five album... way back in the 20th century!
	9:39pm Dave Mandl: Hey Mike! I know, so last-century.
	9:40pm Dave Mandl: Heya, Jake.
	9:40pm pacific standard simon: I remember the 20th Century like it was yesterday...
	9:41pm Dave Mandl: Boy, what a mess this song is.
	9:41pm BDR: Baal, I love Nilsson. I've never heard this demo. Wowee.
	9:41pm fleep: Ouch.
	9:42pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...problem is - Badfinger version missing a leettle something after Harry...
	9:42pm pacific standard simon: Proof of concept, I guess.
	9:42pm Dave Mandl: BDR: I do too, but this wasn't one of his best days.
	9:43pm Listener Kringle: "Cow rod elf ho", ho ho!
	9:43pm BDR: I like hearing the sausage made.
	9:44pm P-90: I kinda prefer the demo: pure, without the layered schmaltz.
	9:44pm JakeGould: If that was demo, that final song is… What. Wow, Nilsson!
	9:45pm pacific standard simon: Nothing tops the singalong demo of "Telstar".
	9:46pm Lonely Planet Boy: always loved this Newman track
	9:46pm Dave Mandl: @LPB: It's hilarious.
	9:48pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hey, it's the piano player from Colbert's final show!
	9:49pm adrian in mpls: This Newman song is making my night!!!
	9:51pm pacific standard simon: It was nice to see Newman there. I'm sure that not all the people who sang on that show actually watched the Colbert Report, but I bet Newman does.
	10:05pm adrian in mpls: I'm going to echo yr sentiment Dave, but that Davies line about privacy seems downright quaint when considering when it was written. Especially considering everything that comes after....
	10:08pm Dave Mandl: @adrian: Absolutely. He didn't realize how good things were in '71.
	10:13pm pacific standard simon: Irony. That's one of Davies' most common themes -- you don't know how good you have it till it's gone.
	10:14pm adrian in mpls: Although, to be fair, 1971 was also the year that I think COINTELPRO was exposed....
	10:16pm Prog Police: It didn't top out until '74.
	10:17pm pacific standard simon: AM radio was SO AWFUL in 1971. Little did we know...
	10:17pm Carmichael: Dave D. was the perfect weary British soul. Lazing on a sunny afternoon ...
	10:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Kinks' song 'Party Line' off 'Face to Face' about unsecure phone connections...how quaint indeed...
	10:21pm JakeGould: A “Party Line” is just a group line for cheap-os back in the day. Everyone shared when they were cheap back then.
	10:22pm pacific standard simon: My family had a party-line phone in '65.
	10:23pm glenn: actually.....party line is about politics.
	10:25pm Mugsy: So it's about lying.
	10:25pm JakeGould: Here is that cover. www.robbierocks.ch...
	10:25pm P-90: I remember when Hypgnosis were the hyppest.
	10:25pm Mugsy: Veggie man!
	10:26pm Carmichael: Hypgnosis was Storm Thorgeson.
	10:27pm adrian in mpls: holy moses - that cover is pretty gross!
	10:28pm pacific standard simon: Good of you to leave your share of the world's meat to me!
	10:29pm Mugsy: My share goes to my wife. Dirty carnivore!
	10:29pm pacific standard simon: That cat Shaft is a baaad melonfarmer!
	10:30pm pacific standard simon: Always leave a plate of bacon out for Santa.
	10:32pm glenn: shut yo mouf.
	10:33pm Dave Mandl: @Carmichael: There were a few other people in Hipgnosis, including Peter Christopherson of Throbbing Gristle!
	10:35pm JakeGould: Excellent, fan-made Hipgnosis covers site here. www.hipgnosiscovers.com
	10:37pm Carmichael: Yes Dave, didn't mean to simplify things. My experiences had always been with Thorgerson himself.
	10:38pm Dave Mandl: @Carmichael: He was the main man, definitely.
	10:38pm HollyT: Greetings from Florida, Dave!
	10:39pm Dave Mandl: @Jake: That's great, thanks.
	10:39pm Dave Mandl: @Holly: Hey! Thanks for dropping by. How are things in the land of the crocodiles?
	10:42pm P-90: In the 70's, the Hypgnosis team deliberately kept a low profile, they enjoyed having a little air of mystery surrounding who they actually were. I remember "Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" and "Wish You Were Here" were two of theirs that everyone knew and talked about. And rolled joints on.
	10:44pm glenn: man. that's a LOT of album covers.
	10:53pm HollyT: Fine. Band rehearsal tonight! :) We're playing a show on the 28th
	10:54pm Dave Mandl: Cool. Where, Orlando?
	10:55pm pacific standard simon: Hipgnosis always seemed a little too precious, to me.
	10:57pm tr:sh: Pretty piano. Barron + bass is lovely. I know the Haden/Barron album but not this one. Pretty piano and bass.
	11:00pm P-90: pss: if "precious" can mean "self-consciously clever, flashy, inventive without subtlety, commercial art that attempts to draw as much or more attention to itself as to the thing it's promoting", you're right.
	11:03pm JakeGould: Hipgnosis was precious when they were bad. For example the cover to “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap” is quite a prime example of that. So bullshit when you think of it.
	11:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Rich Hazelton would like those Hipgnosis visuals.
	11:04pm Mugsy: Very relieved
	11:06pm JakeGould: Then you look at the original band approved Australian cover to “Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap” and you realize it’s the less of two evils. Jeez this cover sucks. cdn.discogs.com...
	11:06pm ifny: Thank you for providing a holiday-music free zone; you have my eternal and impassioned gratitude. Stay the course. I'm just going to hide in here as long as I can...
	11:06pm tr:sh: Xmas/holiday music is like a party guest that arrives too early and makes the party all about the xmas/holiday music.
	11:08pm HollyT: Yep.
	11:09pm Carmichael: Boy, everyone seems to be full of piss and vinegar tonight.
	11:10pm P-90: Yeah, stuff that looked so "original" and "radical" because it broke with traditional design styles at the time can look a little shallow and naively gimmicky a few decades later. Also, when you make a big impression with something "different" and "quirky", new clients flock to you for something "different" and "quirky" in the same way as what you've already done. So you wind up cranking things out in a "house style" that quickly loses it's novelty.
	11:15pm JakeGould: Is this the original Carole King version?
	11:15pm pacific standard simon: Mind you, the cover of Pink Floyd's A Nice Pair worked BECAUSE it was a collection of gimmicks and cheap jokes, enclosing a re-packaging of old material.
	11:15pm P-90: Like the production on this.
	11:16pm Dave Mandl: @Jake: It's an early demo.
	11:17pm JakeGould: I knew I could hear that Yid voice come through.
	11:18pm P-90: *choking on Nog"
	11:18pm pacific standard simon: Compared the Carole King demo of "Road To Nowhere" with Buffy St. Marie's version -- it sounded like someone had just stripped King's vocals off the tape and had St. Marie sing over it.
	11:19pm mark Flynn: I can't believe this guy is only 24.
	11:20pm pacific standard simon: @Carmichael - I'm full of pss and vinegar.
	11:23pm mark Flynn: Referring to Ryley Walker
	11:24pm Ken From Hyde Park: I burned some rice on the bottom of a pan one time and when I let it soak in vinegar, the blackened bits finally came loose. Soap & scrubbing weren't getting them off.
	11:26pm JakeGould: “I burned some rice on the bottom of a pan one time and when I let it soak in vinegar, the blackened bits finally came loose. Soap & scrubbing weren't getting them off.” What I usually do in a case like that is boil water in a pot, then pour that water into the pan with a little vinegar and salt. Let that simmer for a while. Then I drain that cleaning brine away and scrub. Works!
	11:31pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Jake. In other helpful household hints, I understand vinegar on shower tiles can help stave off mold & mildew.
	11:32pm pacific standard simon: Also, if you're trying to cut down your salt intake, small amounts of vinegar can enhance the flavor of food in the same way that salt does.
	11:34pm CorrectUseOfSoup: Regarding the original "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap" its one of my favorite's, can't stand the US artwork. Great show by the way Mr Mandl the Carol King song ruled.
	11:36pm P-90: Figure9s0 in a doorway: a universal symbol of alienation from the status quo and rugged individualism. The director John Ford would frequently photograph John Wayne's cowboy/frontiersmen characters framed in doorways...
	11:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: If you're pestered by flies, you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.
	11:40pm pacific standard simon: Do not, however, try to keep flies out of your horse's eyes by throwing vinegar in its face. The horse will not appreciate your action.
	11:40pm P-90: [Figure(s)...] Also: a 50% dilution of drugstore hydrogen peroxide solution can be lightly sprayed around the toilet to instantly eradicate any of that lingering "stale urine" smell that can be hard to get rid of.
	11:42pm pacific standard simon: Urine over your head now...
	11:43pm P-90: It's the Nog, I tell you.
	11:44pm JakeGould: Ken, I make a cleaning spray that is equal parts water, white vinegar and 91% rubbing alcohol and it cleans really well. Including tiles. So there you go!
	11:45pm pacific standard simon: Nog-gone it!
	11:45pm JakeGould: Also, I know no Christmas stuff on this show, but just wanted to say found a good/full clip of the ending to “Smoke” with Auggie Wren’s Christmas story. I think it’s one of the most underrated NYC film moments ever. vimeo.com...
	11:46pm P-90: Also makes a bracing toddy at bedtime, no?
	11:46pm Mugsy: Nice ride tonite Dave Mandl, enjoy your week
	11:47pm Dave Mandl: @Mugsy: Thanks. And you.
	11:47pm JakeGould: I don’t understand why people get upset at cleaning a toilet. Just grab a sponge, grab some scouring powder and just go in there. 5 seconds later it’s all better!
	11:48pm JakeGould: P-90: I drink the brine from the pan cleaning solution to remind me of all past meals I had in that pan. Brisk!
	11:48pm Dave Mandl: A great holiday and a fun-filled 2015 to everyone.
	11:49pm adrian in mpls: Cheers everyone! Thanks for a wonderful show, Dave.
	11:49pm Ken From Hyde Park: Six more months to the next solstice!
	11:49pm pacific standard simon: 2% rock on, Dave.
	11:51pm Dave Mandl: @pss: Haha. Thanks. @adrian: Thanks. Stay warm in Mpls.
	11:53pm P-90: Thanks for another year of Sunday eves, Dave!
	11:54pm mark Flynn: 5% from me. Feeling good tonight.
	11:55pm pacific standard simon: I'll try to hang in there, even after baseball season starts again.
	11:55pm Dave Mandl: Thanks, all. Really appreciate you being here every week.
	11:55pm tr:sh: Happy Soullllllstice Solstice day. Axial tilts and elliptical paths and all that.
	11:55pm Dave Mandl: @mark: You're being too generous.
	11:55pm JakeGould: Remember: The sunset happens a small amount of time later than it did before the solstice now!
	11:58pm pacific standard simon: This time of year, this far north, it starts getting dark around 3:30.
	11:59pm P-90: "doc el for who"
	12:00am Thomas: <3 Intersystems
	12:03am mark Flynn: Who's doing this version of the Stones?

World of Echo with Dave Mandl: Playlist from December 21, 2014

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