WFMU: Continental Subway with David Dichelle: Playlist from January 9, 2018

Listener comments!
	4:01pm Stanley: All aboard!
	4:01pm melinda: Subway!
	4:06pm David D: Greetings Stanley and Melinda!
	4:07pm Sem: Good evening, David, strap-hangers, Stanley, melinda.
	4:07pm doctorjazz: Hi folks!
	4:09pm David D: Hey Sem and Doc!
	4:16pm northguineahills: Freebase folk!
	4:16pm dale: hello - i could use a pint of stout to go with this music.
	4:17pm northguineahills: I had a pint of stout last night, that will have to do....
	4:23pm David D: Welcome Dale - ales and liquors are on the house!
	4:24pm David D: Cheers, NGH!
	4:25pm dale: i actually just poured a glass of apple cider - that's weird. or not.
	4:26pm David D: Makes sense to me!
	🚂 4:26pm βrian: Johnny Appleseed was all about cider. And cider then was always hard.
	4:26pm Stanley: Here we go - Brandy barrel aged Mexicake 11.6% Imperial Stout from Tempest. Help yersels everyone
	4:29pm David D: Now that is the good stuff, Stanley!
	🚂 4:30pm βrian: Apropos of nothing, or of beer I guess, there was a good article in the NYT on brown ales. It was a tasting article but also touched on the peculiar state of craft beers in the US.
	4:31pm dale: when i bought my squeezebox years ago i found a deutche welle station that just played this old britfolk 24/7. it disappeared from the stream and i've always missed it.
	🚂 4:33pm βrian: I lay you slap of five and bid you wassail.
	4:33pm David D: βrian: Yes. when I moved to Germany I was definitely moving to the good beer. Now, American innovations are being copied here.
	4:34pm melinda: I had forgotten how good the Anonymous 4 are.
	4:35pm Stanley: Stone from Escondido, California has opened a brewery in Berlin. Gone full circle, I'd say.
	4:37pm Parq: A British kid I met on the subway last spring (coming back from the FMU Record Fair, yet) waxed ecstatic about NYC craft beer. "You've really got it sorted out!" he burbled.
	4:38pm northguineahills: Too bad they can't revive the Galician language (Espana, not Polska/Czechia or ancient Asia Minor [all originally Celtic])
	4:39pm Stanley: Parq - he's a bit out of touch. It's very well sorted over here in Britain. Not to mention some amazing offerings from Scandinavia.
	🚂 4:40pm βrian: I've actually lost interest in most American craft beers. Too fashionably extreme, and without balance or cohesiveness. Many exceptions, still, of course, but hard to find amidst the clamor of the fashion ales.
	4:40pm northguineahills: There are three microbreweries in Gainesville (pop 160K) and counting, and plenty of bars that cater to those who appreciate good beer, both domestic and foreign.
	4:41pm coelacanth∅: oh, just in time; and oh now i'm sad. rest in peace. ...i was just listening to her too.
	🚂 4:42pm βrian: As Mae West was said to have said: There are only two kinds of beer I like ..."
	4:42pm northguineahills: I've been a fan of dogfish's archaeological beers where they recreate ancient beers based on archaeological evidence w/ help of academics. They even went to a wadi (oasis) in the middle of the Egyptian Sahara to capture the ancient yeast to recreate an Egyptian beer variant.
	4:43pm Stanley: ngh: That's the thing beer has become local again, albeit nicely complemented with carefully sourced wonders from around ze Vorld.
	4:43pm coelacanth∅: (and hello David and others)
	4:44pm Stanley: βrian - you were saying....
	🚂 4:44pm βrian: "... foreign and domestic."
	4:45pm northguineahills: Sheila B is doing a France Gall tribute Friday on Sophisticated Boom Boom Friday (but everyone here probably already knows that).
	4:45pm Parq: Stan, you misunderstand me. He was comparing NYC favorably to the UK, in sharp contrast to an earlier trip on which he'd found NYC beer virtually non-potable. He wasn't in any way disparaging his homeland's beer -- not hardly.
	4:47pm Parq: Me, I like wine. What do I know?
	4:47pm northguineahills: I like wine, and spirits (if they're not too sweet).
	4:47pm Sem: France Gall gave me an overwhelming memory of "Masculin Féminin."
	4:48pm Stanley: Thanks Parq and good to hear of the revival over there too. I need to know you see, as I will one day make a visit.
	🚂 4:48pm βrian: France, nous te lançons une volée de bisous !
	4:48pm northguineahills: Now, if, I could find a decent pulqueria stateside, I'd be happy! (the one in Chinatown is a hipster simulacra, not pulpy enough.)
	4:49pm David D: There are a couple of Leipzig IPAs and the like now, used to be impossible to find. Parq, how about barleywine?
	4:50pm coelacanth∅: i read sometime last summer how she got in trouble over the song "les leçons particulières"(private lessons) but i don't know why because i couldn't find a translation.
	4:50pm Stanley: In the past only old ladies drank barley wine. Now it's hipster drink of choice.
	4:50pm melinda: I stopped drinking beer several years ago and the brewmania seems kind of weird to me, like there's never enough variety for people. I like the idea of archaeological beers, though.
	4:53pm Stanley: melinda - it'll level off soon but a lot of fun is currently being had by the brewers and the drinkers.
	4:54pm David D: They also recently "dug out" the old traditional Gose beer in Leipzig, which is quite sour and is mostly consumed with syrup or liqueur, if at all.
	4:54pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks for all the France Gall memorial tunes!
	🚂 4:54pm βrian: France, you're on the wrong side of the Maginot line, there!
	4:55pm coelacanth∅: i would dislike the overwhelming majority of beers if i were to waste my time trying them. i like what i like and the fashionable brews that all these newbies are trying to like are almost all too bubbly, too crisp, too thin; and even worse, sometimes sour, sometimes bitter. blegh
	4:55pm Stanley: Yay to yé-yé
	4:55pm Sem: @coel: I ran that song through Translate, pretty innocuous stuff, though in 60s Catholic France who knows what offense was given?
	4:56pm melinda: @stanley I generally support fermentation movements
	4:57pm coelacanth∅: Sem, it was marketed as a children's song, i think. does that change why it may've been considered riské?
	4:58pm Sem: Ah, well, in that case, you must be THIS TALL to listen to the song.
	4:59pm coelacanth∅: haha
	🚂 5:00pm βrian: And if you're too short, you'll have to content yourself with les sucettes.
	5:02pm Stanley: Sem - I checked The Screech fish for rum story. Very interesting. I love old shit like that. I found out recently that in my neighbourhood Leith, the wine bottle was invented and at one time a million bottles a week were being shipped to France.
	🚂 5:03pm βrian: Gots to catch the bus home. Thanks, David.
	5:04pm Sem: Heh, who knew?
	5:04pm David D: Thanks for tuning in, βrian!
	5:04pm coelacanth∅: βrian i had to refresh my memory for that and yeah, maybe ol' Serge played a little trick on young France there.
	5:07pm hilmar: me too, sailing with a beer in my hand through the mud (on my bycicle) and listening...cheers !
	5:08pm David D: Be careful in the Nonnen-mud, Hilmar, the muddiest mud in Leipzig...
	5:12pm Parq: David D at 4:49 (EST) - barleywine is a new one on me.
	5:13pm hilmar: its the muddiest winter since long times... but i am prepared...everyday i walk thru the nonnenholz and the scheibenholz and the küchenholz...thanks for france gall memorial tunes...
	5:14pm David D: Parq: Basically a very strong, sweet, syrupy beer.
	5:17pm David D: Hilmar: I guess all that fresh air is worth it.
	5:19pm northguineahills: My local footy (soccer) pub has 40 beers on tap. If you drink all 40 (or least 1-40, as they change) you get free beer etc (the fourth time you get a keg of your choosing). Even the worst beer are still better then what I drank in college, and not really that bad, and most are quite nice. My favorite flavored beer (and I usually hate flavored beers), a mango-habanero ale (Oberon). Spicy w/ just a hint of fruitiness. www.bellsbeer.com...
	5:20pm Parq: Yechh. You lost me at "sweet, syrupy". Even hard cider turns me off unless it's really dry.
	5:21pm northguineahills: Latin alphabet, please!
	5:22pm David D: NGH: Do you have to drink them all the same day?
	5:22pm hilmar: around easter holiday we always play search the easter beer around the nonnenholz mud (basically what we did as children with easter eggs...(to cross the topics)...great voice (asik veysel...)..
	5:24pm David D: NGH: Very unofficially: Phùmphwng dwng cạnthr̒ /k̄hud din chæ̀ng
	5:26pm northguineahills: barleywine can bee sweet, but it can be sour-fruity as well. It depends. It's sort of heavy. @David D: No, they give you hole-punch card. I choose my beers in alphabetical order so my previous bias's won't determine drinking experience. The Welsh use more nouns (That's hyperbole on my part)!
	5:27pm David D: Yes, I may have to look for the right barleywines, maybe an idea for the Easter beer hunt...
	5:30pm northguineahills: Did I say alphabetical order? I meant ordinal order.
	5:31pm Parq: So we're having this great conversation about potables, and I'm sitting at my desk depressingly sober. Phooey.
	5:36pm northguineahills: I won't be able to partake for at least another 3 hours.
	5:36pm coelacanth∅: ngh "my" pub has a whiskey map. a "pirate map" with a treasure chest at the end. it's also around 40 and after doing a shot (or similar) of each one within a month(?) you get the coveted white poker chip, which entitles you to free whiskey but i don't remember the details. only about a dozen people have done it, but a few have done it 2-3 X. ...i would do it if scotch weren't involved.
	5:38pm David D: You're always welcome to indulge virtually on this train...
	5:39pm hilmar: beers from the tap are too expensive here but there is some nice hot dog shop here that is specialised on czech beers and franconian bavarian beers...i tried to drink after interestingness of their label design..on the way home the beer in my bottle was freezing (it was another winter)...
	5:40pm melinda: I don't do well with normal amounts of alcohol but tried 2-3 oz of sake to celebrate the solstice and it was really good, very satisfying on a cold night.
	5:42pm coelacanth∅: mm i like a good sake. ...actually i've enjoyed many a cheap sake as well.
	5:42pm David D: Haven't had sake in ages, sounds good just about now...
	5:42pm Parq: Hilmar, one of the things I had to get used to in Belgium was that the presumption that draft beer was superior to bottled beer didn't necessarily hold. In NYC too, top-quality bottled Belgians are available that put all but the very best (and rarely found) Belgian drafts to shame.
	5:42pm hilmar: ich werde schmutzig und es ist mir egal....geht in ordnung (spontaneaous translation of herr pop)
	5:42pm northguineahills: @coel: Scotch and mezcal are my preferred spirits, so that would be dangerous for me. It's been so cold, all of the wild flowers, ferns, vines, and banana trees have died or are dying in my front yard. I hope they come back. It usually doesn't stay so cold for so long in FL. Luckily, it's back to 73F/22C right now.
	5:43pm Parq: Melinda, really good sake (which is also rarely found hereabouts) is something special.
	5:43pm David D: Hilmar: Great idea for a band to do spontaneous translations of songs on stage.
	5:44pm northguineahills: I got to party w/ the Black Keys about a decade ago. Fun nice people. (friends of college friends).
	5:44pm doctorjazz: Making me feel like indulging/imbibing when I get out of the office...
	5:46pm coelacanth∅: there's a sake bar near here with an impressive variety. i've liked every one i've had; but i rarely try the sweet, thick ones.
	5:46pm hilmar: parq, i love belgian beers...and yes i had that that same experience in bruxelles....drinking all the beers that pubs would offer...i still like to remember those nights...also in nothern france they are quite common..
	5:46pm melinda: @Parq I don't know my sakes, but there is a local store with descriptions of each one they carry and I thought I'd try them.
	5:46pm coelacanth∅: this sounds like a different mix on "dirt"
	5:48pm David D: NGH: Wow, that must have been a good time (referring to the band not the cold spell of course).
	5:48pm melinda: The one I had recently came in a commemorative glass with pandas on it, I thought it would be a good one to start with.
	5:50pm David D: I should start doing this show from a bar.
	5:51pm Sem: This looks to be my stop, David. Thank you for hosting this wide-ranging discussion of libations both foreign and domestic. Hope to see you, and all, next time the subway rolls round. G'night.
	5:51pm Parq: Melinda, I had that one too! Still have the glass.
	5:52pm David D: Good night, Sem, thanks for listening!
	5:52pm coelacanth∅: ngh i have tried a single malt or 2 that i didn't hate, but if that's how it is, why bother! there are many whiskeys i like. this pub though, for the diveyest place in town, has some fancyass scotches you'd enjoy.
	5:53pm melinda: It's a sweet little glass. I've always been fond of pandas.
	5:53pm coelacanth∅: bonjour Sem
	5:54pm northguineahills: The White Birch, new to me, and had an earthy Magnetic Fields vibe to it. The only problem w/ buy scotch at a bar down here, is, that's usually unfarkabelievably expensive, so, most of the time I just get a bottle.
	5:54pm northguineahills: (more expensive the NYC).
	5:54pm melinda: I heard Magnetic Fields too
	5:55pm northguineahills: get your tracksuits, cheap vodka, and get your squats down, as we're going to Slavicon!
	5:56pm doctorjazz: Pretty track, this "Land"
	5:57pm David D: Yes, Slavic themes incorporated into the mix - based in Dresden in fact.
	5:58pm coelacanth∅: in this place the drinks gradually become stronger, or bigger, or cheaper - as one becomes family...and anyone might, if they're not a douche!
	6:03pm hilmar: moving from dirt to land...makes me remember helping out with potatoe harvest as a child...its possible to burn some spiritual drink from those vegetables too..
	6:06pm doctorjazz: Pretty stuff, great set, gotta run, thanks, David!
	6:09pm Stanley: Great tunes tonight, David. But Zebedee has called. Thanks and see you next week
	6:10pm David D: Good night and good journey home, Stanley and Doctorjazz - thanks!
	6:12pm northguineahills: That's nice organ timbre....
	6:14pm Dean: I am amazed at the number of purportedly complete Reger organ music series out there. They occupy a lot of discs.
	6:23pm David D: Dean: Do you mean to say they're holding something back?
	6:26pm Dean: There are disputes as to what comprises "complete," but mostly I'm just amazed that so many of these efforts see the light of day. I know Reger is admired for his organ works, but he isn't exactly a household name. Not surprised to see the occasional run-through of all of Bach's cantatas, say, but solo organ recitals of works by Reger are relatively esoteric stuff.
	6:27pm David D: Better question: Do you have one yourself?
	6:28pm David D: Yes. he was a very prolific composer, so it would hard to actually be comprehensive, even if that is your goal.
	6:30pm Dean: (Yesterday, I received a 2CD set of Vaughan Williams' organ music. Lovelly.) Re:Reger (couldn't REsist), no, but I'll comb through the Fanfare reviews and land on one one of these days. I always shoot myself for not picking up that used set of complete Scarlatti harpsichord sonatas by Scott Ross, At the time it consisted of something like three dozen discs in a box that occupied a lot of real estate. I think subsequent reissues have compacted it somewhat.
	6:50pm David D: Sounds great - where do you find stuff like that in your part of the world?
	6:54pm David D: I guess good secondhand CD shops and the like? It is sometimes hard to find used stuff here at good prices. I need to be careful not to be too tempted the next time I'm over on the other side of the pond...
	6:59pm northguineahills: Thanks David!
	6:59pm Dean: The RVW, Reger, or Ross? For RVW I shop from Albion Records, which has produced a slim, but growing catalog of recordings of works by RVW and contemporaries. For Reger's complete organ works I'll plumb the Fanfare archives for reviews, noting both the issues under review and issues mentioned therein that didn't get a full review. I'll see what's selling online (at the label or distributor site or third-party sources, e.g., discogs). You're right, though. I don't like to shop online by default. I like to get my hands dirty combing through bins and racks. Since I'm not too focused on methodical collecting--I take what fortune throws my way--I have a lot of fun finding goodies in nearby shops. Even the recent RVW acquisition--seven sealed issues direct from the label--were triggered by an emailed ad from the label. The ad worked, and I'll now have the pleasure of listening to several hours of RVW, a pleasure I hadn't expected just a week or two ago.
	7:00pm David D: Thanks, Dean - I'll read that off air! And thanks everyone for listening - stay tuned....
	7:01pm hilmar: sleep well david and everybody! (i had to improvise some pizza in between (with farina instead of flour, it works)
	7:07pm Webhamster Henry: Sorry - I was kind of busy and not commenting tonight! Nice show though, it's alright with me!
	7:09pm coelacanth∅: Thanks David!
	7:10pm David D: Thanks Henry and Hilmar - guten Appetit!
	7:10pm David D: And coelacanth∅!

Continental Subway with David Dichelle: Playlist from January 9, 2018

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January 9, 2018: Memories and mud

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Artist	Track	Album	Year	Approx. start time
Continental Subway	Intro "Intro" by "Continental Subway"
Tim Hart & Maddy Prior	The Dalesman's Litany	Folk Songs of Old England, Volume 1	1968	0:02:56 (Pop-up)
Maddy Prior & Tim Hart	The Ploughboy and the Cockney	Summer Solstice	1971	0:07:42 (Pop-up)
Tim Hart & Maddy Prior	The Rambling Sailor	Folk Songs of Olde England, Volume 1	1968	0:11:14 (Pop-up)
Steeleye Span	The Blackleg Miner "The Blackleg Miner" by "Steeleye Span"	Hark! The Village Wait	1970	0:13:34 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Wolfgang Riechmann	Himmelblau "Himmelblau" by "Wolfgang Riechmann"	Wunderbar	1978	0:16:17 (Pop-up)
Steeleye Span	Gower Wassail "Gower Wassail" by "Steeleye Span"	Ten Man Mop or Mr. Reservoir Butler Rides Again	1971	0:21:35 (Pop-up)
The Watersons	Here We Come A-wassailing	Frost and Fire	1965	0:26:51 (Pop-up)
Anonymous 4 with Andrew Lawrence-King	Can Wassel	Wolcum Yule	2005	0:28:23 (Pop-up)
Vicki Swan & Jonny Dyer	Essex Wassail		2012	0:30:53 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Quadro Nuevo	Die Reise nach Batumi	Grand Voyage	2012	0:33:44 (Pop-up)
France Gall	Nous nous sommes pas des anges	Baby Pop	1966	0:39:02 (Pop-up)
France Gall	Bloody Jack "Bloody Jack" by "France Gall"	Made In France: France Gall’s Baby Pop	196X/2012	0:41:43 (Pop-up)
Eva Pilarová	Vosková panenka (Poupée de cire, poupée de son)		1966	0:44:39 (Pop-up)
The Cambodian Space Project	Laisses Tomber Les Filles	Electric Blue Boogaloo	2015	0:47:06 (Pop-up)
France Gall	Alle reden von der Liebe		1968	0:49:13 (Pop-up)
France Gall	Der Computer Nr. 3 "Der Computer Nr. 3" by "France Gall"		1968	0:51:57 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Jacques Ysaÿe & His Orchestra	Ritmo Nocturno (Evening Beat)	Color in Music 1	1968	0:54:37 (Pop-up)
Chango Spasiuk	Tierra Colorada "Tierra Colorada" by "Chango Spasiuk"	Tarefero de mis pagos (Sounds from the Red Land)	2005	1:01:40 (Pop-up)
Nestor Torres	Tierra Colorá "Tierra Colorá" by "Nestor Torres"	Orchestra Afro-Charanga Vol.II	1980	1:04:33 (Pop-up)
Cimarrón	Tierra negra (Black land)	¡Cimarrón! Joropo Music from the Plains of Colombia	2011	1:09:25 (Pop-up)
Los Virtuosos	Tierra Querida "Tierra Querida" by "Los Virtuosos"		1936	1:12:36 (Pop-up)
พุ่มพวง ดวงจันทร์	ขุดดินแช่ง			1:15:29 (Pop-up)
Aşık Veysel	Kara Toprak "Kara Toprak" by "Aşık Veysel"			1:18:41 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: El Ensamble Azul	Cempazúchitl "Cempazúchitl" by "El Ensamble Azul"	Waltz para un otoño	2015	1:27:14 (Pop-up)
The Black Keys	Black Mud "Black Mud" by "The Black Keys"	Brothers	2010	1:33:23 (Pop-up)
Gogol Bordello	Dig Deep Enough "Dig Deep Enough" by "Gogol Bordello"	Pura Vida Conspiracy	2013	1:35:38 (Pop-up)
The Stooges	Dirt "Dirt" by "The Stooges"	Fun House	1970	1:39:08 (Pop-up)
The White Birch	Solid Dirt "Solid Dirt" by "The White Birch"	The Weight of Spring	2015	1:46:03 (Pop-up)
Clemens Pötzsch & Slavicon	Land "Land" by "Clemens Pötzsch & Slavicon"	Slavicon	2012	1:50:33 (Pop-up)
Spiro	Underland "Underland" by "Spiro"	Lightbox	2015	1:58:43 (Pop-up)
Fazıl Say	Kara Toprak, Black Earth, Op. 8	Black Earth	2003	2:02:03 (Pop-up)
Michael Schönheit	Max Reger: Fuge über B-A-C-H op. 46	Orgelmusik aus dem Neuen Gewandhaus zu Leipzig - Gewandhausorganist Michael Schönheit spielt Werke Leipziger Komponisten	2007	2:08:17 (Pop-up)
Christoph Krummacher	Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy: Sonate Nr 2 C-Moll Op 65/2	Orgeln In Leipzig	1995	2:17:22 (Pop-up)
Ullrich Böhme	Johann Sebastian Bach: Präludium und Fuge C-Dur BWV 545	Die neue Bach-Orgel der Thomaskirche zu Leipzig	2001	2:28:17 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Nguyên Lê	Yielding Water "Yielding Water" by "Nguyên Lê"	Walking On The Tiger´s Tail	2005	2:34:46 (Pop-up)
Sonny Rollins	It's All Right With Me	Worktime	1956	2:44:52 (Pop-up)
Brad Mehldau	It's All Right With Me	Live In Marciac	2006	2:50:54 (Pop-up)
Peggy Lee	It's All Right With Me "It's All Right With Me" by "Peggy Lee"	Dream Street	1957	2:55:50 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Duke Ellington	Take the "A" Train		1941/1962	2:58:08 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	4:01pm Stanley: All aboard!
	4:01pm melinda: Subway!
	4:06pm David D: Greetings Stanley and Melinda!
	4:07pm Sem: Good evening, David, strap-hangers, Stanley, melinda.
	4:07pm doctorjazz: Hi folks!
	4:09pm David D: Hey Sem and Doc!
	4:16pm northguineahills: Freebase folk!
	4:16pm dale: hello - i could use a pint of stout to go with this music.
	4:17pm northguineahills: I had a pint of stout last night, that will have to do....
	4:23pm David D: Welcome Dale - ales and liquors are on the house!
	4:24pm David D: Cheers, NGH!
	4:25pm dale: i actually just poured a glass of apple cider - that's weird. or not.
	4:26pm David D: Makes sense to me!
	🚂 4:26pm βrian: Johnny Appleseed was all about cider. And cider then was always hard.
	4:26pm Stanley: Here we go - Brandy barrel aged Mexicake 11.6% Imperial Stout from Tempest. Help yersels everyone
	4:29pm David D: Now that is the good stuff, Stanley!
	🚂 4:30pm βrian: Apropos of nothing, or of beer I guess, there was a good article in the NYT on brown ales. It was a tasting article but also touched on the peculiar state of craft beers in the US.
	4:31pm dale: when i bought my squeezebox years ago i found a deutche welle station that just played this old britfolk 24/7. it disappeared from the stream and i've always missed it.
	🚂 4:33pm βrian: I lay you slap of five and bid you wassail.
	4:33pm David D: βrian: Yes. when I moved to Germany I was definitely moving to the good beer. Now, American innovations are being copied here.
	4:34pm melinda: I had forgotten how good the Anonymous 4 are.
	4:35pm Stanley: Stone from Escondido, California has opened a brewery in Berlin. Gone full circle, I'd say.
	4:37pm Parq: A British kid I met on the subway last spring (coming back from the FMU Record Fair, yet) waxed ecstatic about NYC craft beer. "You've really got it sorted out!" he burbled.
	4:38pm northguineahills: Too bad they can't revive the Galician language (Espana, not Polska/Czechia or ancient Asia Minor [all originally Celtic])
	4:39pm Stanley: Parq - he's a bit out of touch. It's very well sorted over here in Britain. Not to mention some amazing offerings from Scandinavia.
	🚂 4:40pm βrian: I've actually lost interest in most American craft beers. Too fashionably extreme, and without balance or cohesiveness. Many exceptions, still, of course, but hard to find amidst the clamor of the fashion ales.
	4:40pm northguineahills: There are three microbreweries in Gainesville (pop 160K) and counting, and plenty of bars that cater to those who appreciate good beer, both domestic and foreign.
	4:41pm coelacanth∅: oh, just in time; and oh now i'm sad. rest in peace. ...i was just listening to her too.
	🚂 4:42pm βrian: As Mae West was said to have said: There are only two kinds of beer I like ..."
	4:42pm northguineahills: I've been a fan of dogfish's archaeological beers where they recreate ancient beers based on archaeological evidence w/ help of academics. They even went to a wadi (oasis) in the middle of the Egyptian Sahara to capture the ancient yeast to recreate an Egyptian beer variant.
	4:43pm Stanley: ngh: That's the thing beer has become local again, albeit nicely complemented with carefully sourced wonders from around ze Vorld.
	4:43pm coelacanth∅: (and hello David and others)
	4:44pm Stanley: βrian - you were saying....
	🚂 4:44pm βrian: "... foreign and domestic."
	4:45pm northguineahills: Sheila B is doing a France Gall tribute Friday on Sophisticated Boom Boom Friday (but everyone here probably already knows that).
	4:45pm Parq: Stan, you misunderstand me. He was comparing NYC favorably to the UK, in sharp contrast to an earlier trip on which he'd found NYC beer virtually non-potable. He wasn't in any way disparaging his homeland's beer -- not hardly.
	4:47pm Parq: Me, I like wine. What do I know?
	4:47pm northguineahills: I like wine, and spirits (if they're not too sweet).
	4:47pm Sem: France Gall gave me an overwhelming memory of "Masculin Féminin."
	4:48pm Stanley: Thanks Parq and good to hear of the revival over there too. I need to know you see, as I will one day make a visit.
	🚂 4:48pm βrian: France, nous te lançons une volée de bisous !
	4:48pm northguineahills: Now, if, I could find a decent pulqueria stateside, I'd be happy! (the one in Chinatown is a hipster simulacra, not pulpy enough.)
	4:49pm David D: There are a couple of Leipzig IPAs and the like now, used to be impossible to find. Parq, how about barleywine?
	4:50pm coelacanth∅: i read sometime last summer how she got in trouble over the song "les leçons particulières"(private lessons) but i don't know why because i couldn't find a translation.
	4:50pm Stanley: In the past only old ladies drank barley wine. Now it's hipster drink of choice.
	4:50pm melinda: I stopped drinking beer several years ago and the brewmania seems kind of weird to me, like there's never enough variety for people. I like the idea of archaeological beers, though.
	4:53pm Stanley: melinda - it'll level off soon but a lot of fun is currently being had by the brewers and the drinkers.
	4:54pm David D: They also recently "dug out" the old traditional Gose beer in Leipzig, which is quite sour and is mostly consumed with syrup or liqueur, if at all.
	4:54pm Webhamster Henry: Thanks for all the France Gall memorial tunes!
	🚂 4:54pm βrian: France, you're on the wrong side of the Maginot line, there!
	4:55pm coelacanth∅: i would dislike the overwhelming majority of beers if i were to waste my time trying them. i like what i like and the fashionable brews that all these newbies are trying to like are almost all too bubbly, too crisp, too thin; and even worse, sometimes sour, sometimes bitter. blegh
	4:55pm Stanley: Yay to yé-yé
	4:55pm Sem: @coel: I ran that song through Translate, pretty innocuous stuff, though in 60s Catholic France who knows what offense was given?
	4:56pm melinda: @stanley I generally support fermentation movements
	4:57pm coelacanth∅: Sem, it was marketed as a children's song, i think. does that change why it may've been considered riské?
	4:58pm Sem: Ah, well, in that case, you must be THIS TALL to listen to the song.
	4:59pm coelacanth∅: haha
	🚂 5:00pm βrian: And if you're too short, you'll have to content yourself with les sucettes.
	5:02pm Stanley: Sem - I checked The Screech fish for rum story. Very interesting. I love old shit like that. I found out recently that in my neighbourhood Leith, the wine bottle was invented and at one time a million bottles a week were being shipped to France.
	🚂 5:03pm βrian: Gots to catch the bus home. Thanks, David.
	5:04pm Sem: Heh, who knew?
	5:04pm David D: Thanks for tuning in, βrian!
	5:04pm coelacanth∅: βrian i had to refresh my memory for that and yeah, maybe ol' Serge played a little trick on young France there.
	5:07pm hilmar: me too, sailing with a beer in my hand through the mud (on my bycicle) and listening...cheers !
	5:08pm David D: Be careful in the Nonnen-mud, Hilmar, the muddiest mud in Leipzig...
	5:12pm Parq: David D at 4:49 (EST) - barleywine is a new one on me.
	5:13pm hilmar: its the muddiest winter since long times... but i am prepared...everyday i walk thru the nonnenholz and the scheibenholz and the küchenholz...thanks for france gall memorial tunes...
	5:14pm David D: Parq: Basically a very strong, sweet, syrupy beer.
	5:17pm David D: Hilmar: I guess all that fresh air is worth it.
	5:19pm northguineahills: My local footy (soccer) pub has 40 beers on tap. If you drink all 40 (or least 1-40, as they change) you get free beer etc (the fourth time you get a keg of your choosing). Even the worst beer are still better then what I drank in college, and not really that bad, and most are quite nice. My favorite flavored beer (and I usually hate flavored beers), a mango-habanero ale (Oberon). Spicy w/ just a hint of fruitiness. www.bellsbeer.com...
	5:20pm Parq: Yechh. You lost me at "sweet, syrupy". Even hard cider turns me off unless it's really dry.
	5:21pm northguineahills: Latin alphabet, please!
	5:22pm David D: NGH: Do you have to drink them all the same day?
	5:22pm hilmar: around easter holiday we always play search the easter beer around the nonnenholz mud (basically what we did as children with easter eggs...(to cross the topics)...great voice (asik veysel...)..
	5:24pm David D: NGH: Very unofficially: Phùmphwng dwng cạnthr̒ /k̄hud din chæ̀ng
	5:26pm northguineahills: barleywine can bee sweet, but it can be sour-fruity as well. It depends. It's sort of heavy. @David D: No, they give you hole-punch card. I choose my beers in alphabetical order so my previous bias's won't determine drinking experience. The Welsh use more nouns (That's hyperbole on my part)!
	5:27pm David D: Yes, I may have to look for the right barleywines, maybe an idea for the Easter beer hunt...
	5:30pm northguineahills: Did I say alphabetical order? I meant ordinal order.
	5:31pm Parq: So we're having this great conversation about potables, and I'm sitting at my desk depressingly sober. Phooey.
	5:36pm northguineahills: I won't be able to partake for at least another 3 hours.
	5:36pm coelacanth∅: ngh "my" pub has a whiskey map. a "pirate map" with a treasure chest at the end. it's also around 40 and after doing a shot (or similar) of each one within a month(?) you get the coveted white poker chip, which entitles you to free whiskey but i don't remember the details. only about a dozen people have done it, but a few have done it 2-3 X. ...i would do it if scotch weren't involved.
	5:38pm David D: You're always welcome to indulge virtually on this train...
	5:39pm hilmar: beers from the tap are too expensive here but there is some nice hot dog shop here that is specialised on czech beers and franconian bavarian beers...i tried to drink after interestingness of their label design..on the way home the beer in my bottle was freezing (it was another winter)...
	5:40pm melinda: I don't do well with normal amounts of alcohol but tried 2-3 oz of sake to celebrate the solstice and it was really good, very satisfying on a cold night.
	5:42pm coelacanth∅: mm i like a good sake. ...actually i've enjoyed many a cheap sake as well.
	5:42pm David D: Haven't had sake in ages, sounds good just about now...
	5:42pm Parq: Hilmar, one of the things I had to get used to in Belgium was that the presumption that draft beer was superior to bottled beer didn't necessarily hold. In NYC too, top-quality bottled Belgians are available that put all but the very best (and rarely found) Belgian drafts to shame.
	5:42pm hilmar: ich werde schmutzig und es ist mir egal....geht in ordnung (spontaneaous translation of herr pop)
	5:42pm northguineahills: @coel: Scotch and mezcal are my preferred spirits, so that would be dangerous for me. It's been so cold, all of the wild flowers, ferns, vines, and banana trees have died or are dying in my front yard. I hope they come back. It usually doesn't stay so cold for so long in FL. Luckily, it's back to 73F/22C right now.
	5:43pm Parq: Melinda, really good sake (which is also rarely found hereabouts) is something special.
	5:43pm David D: Hilmar: Great idea for a band to do spontaneous translations of songs on stage.
	5:44pm northguineahills: I got to party w/ the Black Keys about a decade ago. Fun nice people. (friends of college friends).
	5:44pm doctorjazz: Making me feel like indulging/imbibing when I get out of the office...
	5:46pm coelacanth∅: there's a sake bar near here with an impressive variety. i've liked every one i've had; but i rarely try the sweet, thick ones.
	5:46pm hilmar: parq, i love belgian beers...and yes i had that that same experience in bruxelles....drinking all the beers that pubs would offer...i still like to remember those nights...also in nothern france they are quite common..
	5:46pm melinda: @Parq I don't know my sakes, but there is a local store with descriptions of each one they carry and I thought I'd try them.
	5:46pm coelacanth∅: this sounds like a different mix on "dirt"
	5:48pm David D: NGH: Wow, that must have been a good time (referring to the band not the cold spell of course).
	5:48pm melinda: The one I had recently came in a commemorative glass with pandas on it, I thought it would be a good one to start with.
	5:50pm David D: I should start doing this show from a bar.
	5:51pm Sem: This looks to be my stop, David. Thank you for hosting this wide-ranging discussion of libations both foreign and domestic. Hope to see you, and all, next time the subway rolls round. G'night.
	5:51pm Parq: Melinda, I had that one too! Still have the glass.
	5:52pm David D: Good night, Sem, thanks for listening!
	5:52pm coelacanth∅: ngh i have tried a single malt or 2 that i didn't hate, but if that's how it is, why bother! there are many whiskeys i like. this pub though, for the diveyest place in town, has some fancyass scotches you'd enjoy.
	5:53pm melinda: It's a sweet little glass. I've always been fond of pandas.
	5:53pm coelacanth∅: bonjour Sem
	5:54pm northguineahills: The White Birch, new to me, and had an earthy Magnetic Fields vibe to it. The only problem w/ buy scotch at a bar down here, is, that's usually unfarkabelievably expensive, so, most of the time I just get a bottle.
	5:54pm northguineahills: (more expensive the NYC).
	5:54pm melinda: I heard Magnetic Fields too
	5:55pm northguineahills: get your tracksuits, cheap vodka, and get your squats down, as we're going to Slavicon!
	5:56pm doctorjazz: Pretty track, this "Land"
	5:57pm David D: Yes, Slavic themes incorporated into the mix - based in Dresden in fact.
	5:58pm coelacanth∅: in this place the drinks gradually become stronger, or bigger, or cheaper - as one becomes family...and anyone might, if they're not a douche!
	6:03pm hilmar: moving from dirt to land...makes me remember helping out with potatoe harvest as a child...its possible to burn some spiritual drink from those vegetables too..
	6:06pm doctorjazz: Pretty stuff, great set, gotta run, thanks, David!
	6:09pm Stanley: Great tunes tonight, David. But Zebedee has called. Thanks and see you next week
	6:10pm David D: Good night and good journey home, Stanley and Doctorjazz - thanks!
	6:12pm northguineahills: That's nice organ timbre....
	6:14pm Dean: I am amazed at the number of purportedly complete Reger organ music series out there. They occupy a lot of discs.
	6:23pm David D: Dean: Do you mean to say they're holding something back?
	6:26pm Dean: There are disputes as to what comprises "complete," but mostly I'm just amazed that so many of these efforts see the light of day. I know Reger is admired for his organ works, but he isn't exactly a household name. Not surprised to see the occasional run-through of all of Bach's cantatas, say, but solo organ recitals of works by Reger are relatively esoteric stuff.
	6:27pm David D: Better question: Do you have one yourself?
	6:28pm David D: Yes. he was a very prolific composer, so it would hard to actually be comprehensive, even if that is your goal.
	6:30pm Dean: (Yesterday, I received a 2CD set of Vaughan Williams' organ music. Lovelly.) Re:Reger (couldn't REsist), no, but I'll comb through the Fanfare reviews and land on one one of these days. I always shoot myself for not picking up that used set of complete Scarlatti harpsichord sonatas by Scott Ross, At the time it consisted of something like three dozen discs in a box that occupied a lot of real estate. I think subsequent reissues have compacted it somewhat.
	6:50pm David D: Sounds great - where do you find stuff like that in your part of the world?
	6:54pm David D: I guess good secondhand CD shops and the like? It is sometimes hard to find used stuff here at good prices. I need to be careful not to be too tempted the next time I'm over on the other side of the pond...
	6:59pm northguineahills: Thanks David!
	6:59pm Dean: The RVW, Reger, or Ross? For RVW I shop from Albion Records, which has produced a slim, but growing catalog of recordings of works by RVW and contemporaries. For Reger's complete organ works I'll plumb the Fanfare archives for reviews, noting both the issues under review and issues mentioned therein that didn't get a full review. I'll see what's selling online (at the label or distributor site or third-party sources, e.g., discogs). You're right, though. I don't like to shop online by default. I like to get my hands dirty combing through bins and racks. Since I'm not too focused on methodical collecting--I take what fortune throws my way--I have a lot of fun finding goodies in nearby shops. Even the recent RVW acquisition--seven sealed issues direct from the label--were triggered by an emailed ad from the label. The ad worked, and I'll now have the pleasure of listening to several hours of RVW, a pleasure I hadn't expected just a week or two ago.
	7:00pm David D: Thanks, Dean - I'll read that off air! And thanks everyone for listening - stay tuned....
	7:01pm hilmar: sleep well david and everybody! (i had to improvise some pizza in between (with farina instead of flour, it works)
	7:07pm Webhamster Henry: Sorry - I was kind of busy and not commenting tonight! Nice show though, it's alright with me!
	7:09pm coelacanth∅: Thanks David!
	7:10pm David D: Thanks Henry and Hilmar - guten Appetit!
	7:10pm David D: And coelacanth∅!

Continental Subway with David Dichelle: Playlist from January 9, 2018

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