WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from February 19, 2018

Listener comments!
	6:01pm northguineahills: Techtonic platitudes, y'all...!
	6:02pm geezerette: wish it was the other way around.
	6:02pm melinda: Hi all
	🤖 6:02pm Bas NL: Hi Mark!
	6:02pm geezerette: Howdy!
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: Hiya Mark and TechTones: in re: killing comedy, I like to quote Tom Lehrer on why he stopped writing satire: After Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize, you couldn't top that (words to that effect).
	6:04pm Number Six: Evening , Mark & All!
	🤖 6:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Oh, dear ... the killer app strikes again!
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: Is there going to be a Botnik minute on this show every week?
	🤖 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: "Romantic algorithms" ... is there a joke in there somewhere? Hoo boy.
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: All The News That's Fit To Fake on Feb 16,2018 17:03:30 By laying out in excruciating detail the F.B.I. acknowledged on Friday that it had failed to sow political discord.
	6:07pm Commodore Vic: Read some made-band names from Botnick's AI generated Coachella line-up. That's comedy!
	6:08pm Commodore Vic: (AI generated band names)
	6:10pm geezerette: no argument. witches brew.
	6:14pm arrow apple: Beware the Industrial/Military Complex. Clay played it this AM. If someone does not mention guns about this slaughter, walk away.
	6:14pm ultradamno: I've noticed Twitter doing this too. Giving me notices that people I follow have liked something.
	6:17pm Number Six: I'm not on fb but I got a new phone and removed their preinstalled app. Within 24 hours I started getting messages saying that x number of people are looking for me on fb.
	6:17pm Switchblade Batman: Yup, FB is broken. It has been for years. Will be in the future. Eventually it'll go the way of Myspace
	🤖 6:18pm Ken From Hyde Park: Algorithm was Kurt "Chalky" Gottschalk's word of the week last Wednesday on Wake 'n' Bake.
	6:18pm queems: oh i played that art face game
	6:19pm queems: because i'm a sucker
	6:19pm Patty D: I used to get a notification on my facebook app and the only way to make it go away would be to open the App. When I would open the app I wouldn't have any actual notifications. What I did notice however was that the very first post in my feed was always a promoted post which meant I was giving it an "impression" by seeing it. Coincidence? Doubtful. P.S. love the show.
	6:21pm Chud: The Google Arts and Culture app has been around for a while... It's got a pretty good archive of high resolution scans of fine art from around the world
	🤖 6:21pm Webhamster Henry: I sent in pictures of electric sockets.
	6:22pm melinda: That selfie art thing seemed suspicious for exactly this reason.
	🤖 6:22pm Ken From Hyde Park: I applied some good ol' Techtonic skepticism and didn't send any selfies to that project.
	🤖 6:22pm Webhamster Henry: Also drawings and shots of stuffed animals.
	🤖 6:23pm Bas NL: A database of deleted stuff.. yum!
	6:23pm Chud: I'm not a fan or user of the selfie part of the app, though the algorithm they use doesn't need to send a full image back to their servers to match
	6:24pm queems: i relate to this angry guy
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: And also, it's results ere quite poor. So it was roughly as accurate as Internet quizzes like "What Hogwarts House do you sort in?"
	🤖 6:25pm Webhamster Henry: "And also, it's results ere quite poor." <== "And also, its results were quite poor."
	6:25pm Fuzzy: Brain Candy.
	6:28pm queems: HE'S A CYBORG
	6:28pm Gooberz.jpg: Nice I just read that piece Digging the monster voice, for anonymity
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: Hey , I'm in Pitch!
	🤖 6:29pm Ken From Hyde Park: OK, now he's sounding normal.
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: It's a very interesting idea!
	6:32pm Gregg: The Onion was great until someone bought them and turned them into crap. I just remember the website Get Your War On. That was great too.
	6:36pm βrian: @Gregg: Amen. I'm from Madison.
	6:36pm geezerette: Yeah, GYWO was incredible! FB is a memory hole.
	6:38pm Fredericks: To "ere" is human, Webhamster.
	6:38pm Gooberz.jpg: FB isn't even a good memory hole anymore. It's absolute mind control shit now. There's no reason to be there in 2018
	6:39pm Fredericks: Also, I think Lehrer said he couldn't do satire anymore.
	6:39pm geezerette: Memory holes are not a good thing.
	6:40pm βrian: Never actually used FB; only lurked a bit to find old friends. Just seemed too creepy.
	6:40pm Gooberz.jpg: All of this shit has moved over to Instagram now; and even there, the shark has been thoroughly jumped
	6:41pm Fox: I'd like to get that quote of Facebook = Walmart to post all over FB. Is that ok?
	6:41pm βrian: Every time I drop in on instagram, I get a blank page. Then I remember to turn javascript on. That's silly.
	6:42pm el_musgo: Just deleted FACEBOOK app from my phone. FEELS GOOD!
	🤖 6:42pm Webhamster Henry: Fortunately we have the WFMU playlist chatboards as a FB alternative.
	6:43pm Gooberz.jpg: FB is at least tolerable back in the 90s
	6:43pm Fox: Is FB harmful if you only interact with humans, and not with re-posted content?
	6:43pm βrian: State-of-the-art web design these days is shite. (In my view.)
	6:43pm geezerette: You're also spending your non-refundable time. Working for them unaware and unpaid.
	🤖 6:44pm Webhamster Henry: Google + is Still There!
	6:44pm Gregg: Youtube channels that are being demonitized (like Jimmy Dore) are transitioning over to Steemit.
	6:44pm βrian: Will FB reinstall that app?
	6:45pm Fox: I remember when LiveJournal and AIM and independent messageboards was how most social networking happened. I remember thinking that the internet was a place where people were thoughtful and was meant for great written expression, increasing the literacy of the common person.
	6:45pm northguineahills: I use FB once a week to figure out shows in my new town. I have never had the phone app.
	6:45pm βrian: Some kind of open-source equivalent to FB might be interesting. Maybe Iceland could turn it's hydrothermal toward that!
	🤖 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: Bring back Geocities!
	6:47pm Gregg: And Hamster Dance!
	6:47pm Mark Hurst: Vulture.com article on Cuplicated - www.vulture.com...
	6:48pm βrian: My favorite browser was iCab!
	6:48pm βrian: ... if not Lynx.
	🤖 6:51pm Ken From Hyde Park: 201-KEN-WFMU
	6:51pm Phil with the phone: Call in to FABULOUS studio B with your constructive input! 201-536-9368
	6:51pm melinda: I use FB on my ipod touch without the app.
	6:52pm melinda: The Techtonic t shirt looks good.
	6:53pm dstimpf: Some phones won't even allow you to uninstall the facebook app....pretty weird.
	6:53pm ultradamno: Never been on Facebook, only use Twitter on iPad mini or home computer.
	6:54pm queems: i deleted facebook 6 years ago and never looked back. not sure if i can give up instagram, though
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: if you have an iOS device, and you want to use the desktop (not mobile) version of a webist, like facebook, hold the "reload" button ↻ and a menu pops up that says "Request Desktop Site" and you'll be able to pick up Facebook Messages without the app. The mobile version of Facebook's website does not allow messages!
	6:55pm queems: it uses similar algorithms now though
	6:55pm queems: yepppp
	6:55pm Switchblade Batman: What about Ello?
	6:56pm Gooberz.jpg: Instagram is all algorithms and ads too. Feels exactly like FB. Same thing now
	6:56pm sufferwords: never had FB on phone- feel i have to lurk on home computer as to stay abreast of modern trends- one helpful hint i have all notifications turned off
	6:56pm melinda: I just joined Instagram and it does feel sort of facebooky.
	6:57pm queems: @melinda it used to be a lot different. it has been sliding into facebook territory more and more
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: That's Safari's convention .. I'm not sure if other browsers do it too.
	🤖 6:57pm Ken From Hyde Park: Great, the secret's out. Apple will likely turn that feature off on the next upgrade.
	6:58pm SeanG: great show!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from February 19, 2018

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Mon. Nov 11th, 6pm - 7pm: Station Mgr Ken Guest Hosts Techtonic: Music and the Military (More info...)
Station Manager Ken welcomes David Suisman (pronounced: Soosman) on his new book "Instruments of War: Music and the Making of America's Soldiers." David and Ken will be discussing David's study of music's role in the making of the US military and the making of war.
Mon. Nov 18th, 6pm - 7pm: Astronomer Samantha Lawler returns to Techtonic (More info...)
Thousands of Elon Musk's SpaceX satellites will re-enter Earth's atmosphere in the next few years, adding huge amounts of metals and chemicals to our atmosphere. Astronomer Samantha Lawler returns to Techtonic to explain why satellite "mega-constellations" are causing havoc for astronomers and will soon affect all life on earth.
Mon. Dec 23rd, 6pm - 7pm: Don Fleming guest hosts Techtonic

February 19, 2018: Matt Klinman on "how Facebook is killing comedy"

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This evening, a conversation with Matt Klinman on the effect that Facebook is having on comedy.

Links:

• How Facebook is Killing Comedy, Matt's interview with Splitsider

• Facebook Notification Has Crossed the Line (Wired, Feb 15)

• How I Cracked Facebook's New Algorithm and Tortured My Friends, by Katie Notopoulos

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Techtonic friends, my suggestions this week:
- Delete social media apps from your smartphone.
- Pick up a book.
- Support independent, non-monopolist services like these alternatives and, of course, WFMU.

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Listener comments!
	6:01pm northguineahills: Techtonic platitudes, y'all...!
	6:02pm geezerette: wish it was the other way around.
	6:02pm melinda: Hi all
	🤖 6:02pm Bas NL: Hi Mark!
	6:02pm geezerette: Howdy!
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: Hiya Mark and TechTones: in re: killing comedy, I like to quote Tom Lehrer on why he stopped writing satire: After Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize, you couldn't top that (words to that effect).
	6:04pm Number Six: Evening , Mark & All!
	🤖 6:04pm Ken From Hyde Park: Oh, dear ... the killer app strikes again!
	🤖 6:06pm Webhamster Henry: Is there going to be a Botnik minute on this show every week?
	🤖 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park: "Romantic algorithms" ... is there a joke in there somewhere? Hoo boy.
	🤖 6:07pm Webhamster Henry: All The News That's Fit To Fake on Feb 16,2018 17:03:30 By laying out in excruciating detail the F.B.I. acknowledged on Friday that it had failed to sow political discord.
	6:07pm Commodore Vic: Read some made-band names from Botnick's AI generated Coachella line-up. That's comedy!
	6:08pm Commodore Vic: (AI generated band names)
	6:10pm geezerette: no argument. witches brew.
	6:14pm arrow apple: Beware the Industrial/Military Complex. Clay played it this AM. If someone does not mention guns about this slaughter, walk away.
	6:14pm ultradamno: I've noticed Twitter doing this too. Giving me notices that people I follow have liked something.
	6:17pm Number Six: I'm not on fb but I got a new phone and removed their preinstalled app. Within 24 hours I started getting messages saying that x number of people are looking for me on fb.
	6:17pm Switchblade Batman: Yup, FB is broken. It has been for years. Will be in the future. Eventually it'll go the way of Myspace
	🤖 6:18pm Ken From Hyde Park: Algorithm was Kurt "Chalky" Gottschalk's word of the week last Wednesday on Wake 'n' Bake.
	6:18pm queems: oh i played that art face game
	6:19pm queems: because i'm a sucker
	6:19pm Patty D: I used to get a notification on my facebook app and the only way to make it go away would be to open the App. When I would open the app I wouldn't have any actual notifications. What I did notice however was that the very first post in my feed was always a promoted post which meant I was giving it an "impression" by seeing it. Coincidence? Doubtful. P.S. love the show.
	6:21pm Chud: The Google Arts and Culture app has been around for a while... It's got a pretty good archive of high resolution scans of fine art from around the world
	🤖 6:21pm Webhamster Henry: I sent in pictures of electric sockets.
	6:22pm melinda: That selfie art thing seemed suspicious for exactly this reason.
	🤖 6:22pm Ken From Hyde Park: I applied some good ol' Techtonic skepticism and didn't send any selfies to that project.
	🤖 6:22pm Webhamster Henry: Also drawings and shots of stuffed animals.
	🤖 6:23pm Bas NL: A database of deleted stuff.. yum!
	6:23pm Chud: I'm not a fan or user of the selfie part of the app, though the algorithm they use doesn't need to send a full image back to their servers to match
	6:24pm queems: i relate to this angry guy
	🤖 6:24pm Webhamster Henry: And also, it's results ere quite poor. So it was roughly as accurate as Internet quizzes like "What Hogwarts House do you sort in?"
	🤖 6:25pm Webhamster Henry: "And also, it's results ere quite poor." <== "And also, its results were quite poor."
	6:25pm Fuzzy: Brain Candy.
	6:28pm queems: HE'S A CYBORG
	6:28pm Gooberz.jpg: Nice I just read that piece Digging the monster voice, for anonymity
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: Hey , I'm in Pitch!
	🤖 6:29pm Ken From Hyde Park: OK, now he's sounding normal.
	🤖 6:29pm Webhamster Henry: It's a very interesting idea!
	6:32pm Gregg: The Onion was great until someone bought them and turned them into crap. I just remember the website Get Your War On. That was great too.
	6:36pm βrian: @Gregg: Amen. I'm from Madison.
	6:36pm geezerette: Yeah, GYWO was incredible! FB is a memory hole.
	6:38pm Fredericks: To "ere" is human, Webhamster.
	6:38pm Gooberz.jpg: FB isn't even a good memory hole anymore. It's absolute mind control shit now. There's no reason to be there in 2018
	6:39pm Fredericks: Also, I think Lehrer said he couldn't do satire anymore.
	6:39pm geezerette: Memory holes are not a good thing.
	6:40pm βrian: Never actually used FB; only lurked a bit to find old friends. Just seemed too creepy.
	6:40pm Gooberz.jpg: All of this shit has moved over to Instagram now; and even there, the shark has been thoroughly jumped
	6:41pm Fox: I'd like to get that quote of Facebook = Walmart to post all over FB. Is that ok?
	6:41pm βrian: Every time I drop in on instagram, I get a blank page. Then I remember to turn javascript on. That's silly.
	6:42pm el_musgo: Just deleted FACEBOOK app from my phone. FEELS GOOD!
	🤖 6:42pm Webhamster Henry: Fortunately we have the WFMU playlist chatboards as a FB alternative.
	6:43pm Gooberz.jpg: FB is at least tolerable back in the 90s
	6:43pm Fox: Is FB harmful if you only interact with humans, and not with re-posted content?
	6:43pm βrian: State-of-the-art web design these days is shite. (In my view.)
	6:43pm geezerette: You're also spending your non-refundable time. Working for them unaware and unpaid.
	🤖 6:44pm Webhamster Henry: Google + is Still There!
	6:44pm Gregg: Youtube channels that are being demonitized (like Jimmy Dore) are transitioning over to Steemit.
	6:44pm βrian: Will FB reinstall that app?
	6:45pm Fox: I remember when LiveJournal and AIM and independent messageboards was how most social networking happened. I remember thinking that the internet was a place where people were thoughtful and was meant for great written expression, increasing the literacy of the common person.
	6:45pm northguineahills: I use FB once a week to figure out shows in my new town. I have never had the phone app.
	6:45pm βrian: Some kind of open-source equivalent to FB might be interesting. Maybe Iceland could turn it's hydrothermal toward that!
	🤖 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park: Bring back Geocities!
	6:47pm Gregg: And Hamster Dance!
	6:47pm Mark Hurst: Vulture.com article on Cuplicated - www.vulture.com...
	6:48pm βrian: My favorite browser was iCab!
	6:48pm βrian: ... if not Lynx.
	🤖 6:51pm Ken From Hyde Park: 201-KEN-WFMU
	6:51pm Phil with the phone: Call in to FABULOUS studio B with your constructive input! 201-536-9368
	6:51pm melinda: I use FB on my ipod touch without the app.
	6:52pm melinda: The Techtonic t shirt looks good.
	6:53pm dstimpf: Some phones won't even allow you to uninstall the facebook app....pretty weird.
	6:53pm ultradamno: Never been on Facebook, only use Twitter on iPad mini or home computer.
	6:54pm queems: i deleted facebook 6 years ago and never looked back. not sure if i can give up instagram, though
	🤖 6:54pm Webhamster Henry: if you have an iOS device, and you want to use the desktop (not mobile) version of a webist, like facebook, hold the "reload" button ↻ and a menu pops up that says "Request Desktop Site" and you'll be able to pick up Facebook Messages without the app. The mobile version of Facebook's website does not allow messages!
	6:55pm queems: it uses similar algorithms now though
	6:55pm queems: yepppp
	6:55pm Switchblade Batman: What about Ello?
	6:56pm Gooberz.jpg: Instagram is all algorithms and ads too. Feels exactly like FB. Same thing now
	6:56pm sufferwords: never had FB on phone- feel i have to lurk on home computer as to stay abreast of modern trends- one helpful hint i have all notifications turned off
	6:56pm melinda: I just joined Instagram and it does feel sort of facebooky.
	6:57pm queems: @melinda it used to be a lot different. it has been sliding into facebook territory more and more
	🤖 6:57pm Webhamster Henry: That's Safari's convention .. I'm not sure if other browsers do it too.
	🤖 6:57pm Ken From Hyde Park: Great, the secret's out. Apple will likely turn that feature off on the next upgrade.
	6:58pm SeanG: great show!

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