WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 21, 2019

Listener comments!
	6:00pm listener james from westwood: Howdy Mark, Ken, listeners, thinly disguised cyborgs time-traveling in from a machine-ruled future, and Roombas.
	6:00pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Ken! Techs Machiñatas!
	6:00pm Marley Dogg: Ahooy ahooy
	6:01pm -Ken: Hi everybody!
	6:01pm John from Florham park: Hello fellow technoids
	6:02pm Fuzzy: Talk tech to me, baby!
	6:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Btw- Mark - get Kenzo on. ...He said I should promote this & I just have...
	🤖 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: Good evening, Mark. Or possibly Robotic Mark. How would we tell? Hey there, SMK (definitely not a robot). Hello, fellow Techtodrones.
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends!
	6:03pm ultradamno: Hitchbot vs. Philadelphia www.cnn.com...
	6:03pm Marley Dogg: Sky net always wins
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: I'm playing with training a GPT-2 in another window right now.
	🤖 6:04pm Webhamster Henry: Play a bit from the famous "Robot Andy" 7SD show!
	6:04pm kevlicki: Hey mark and all. There’s an unusual app that was created for the Catalonian demonstrations Called tsunami democratic
	6:04pm Carmichael: Ken is answering questions through his BBS site.
	🤖 6:04pm chresti: Hello Techtoniacs and Mark
	6:04pm kevlicki: The app supposedly tells you where there’s a protest nearby that you can join
	🤖 6:04pm tim from champaign (now washington): This is a subject made for X-Ray Burns.
	6:05pm melinda: Hi Mark, Ken and techtons!
	6:06pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I want all the money - & all the control...& No Accountability! ...top of my CV...
	6:07pm iiibeat: From dictionary.com . . Origin of robot < Czech, coined by Karel Čapek in the play R.U.R. (1920) from the base robot-, as in robota compulsory labor, robotník peasant owing such labor
	6:07pm listener james from westwood: Zuck would give his right ass cheek to get China on FB.
	🤖 6:08pm Folsom: You have 20 seconds to comply!!
	6:08pm ultradamno: Onion people talk back to Zuck's free speech manifesto www.theonion.com...
	6:08pm Ike: So if I DL that app and put a lot of Winnie the Pooh memes on there, my phone will explode?
	6:08pm iiibeat: It's Czech, mate!!
	6:10pm Fuzzy: Best description of ZuckerBug I have seen: "a wax doll cursed to life."
	6:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Considering faceborg was started because he in fact had no social network...
	6:12pm Franco Twinkie: Well, The New Yorker had a piece on Tic-Toc recently, written by a young-ish person who seemed to be exasperated and confounded by this latest time wasting obsession aimed at fourteen year olds. What next? Who Cares? Oh, I forgot those fourteen year olds are the new overloards. Bah!
	6:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cartoon: Man entering friend's place: 'Alexa! Order 100 pizzas!'...
	6:13pm ultradamno: I'm intrigued on this licensing one's face for a humanoid robot idea, if only to have a potential patsy on hand.
	6:13pm Ignatatus666: I think we should be informed that the host has these devices They are basically recording us without permission
	6:14pm Dave Miss: Hello from BK
	6:14pm debt collector: Of course zuckerberg is willing to take ads from everyone. Of course those with money who can pay for ads, those who have the most to gain from influencing people, those who have the most to lose from daylight will be those who have already extracted wealth from the rest of us. Capitalists, despots, and tyrants are winning the game and zuckerberg is their agent!!!!
	🤖 6:16pm Webhamster Henry: @ultrademo: in the Marvel world, they're called "Live Model Decoys", or LMDs. In "Bill & Ted II", they are called "Robot Evil Us'es".
	6:17pm listener james from westwood: Remember Robert Williams, the first martyr to the robot menace: en.wikipedia.org...
	6:17pm ɨkɛ: Oh, maybe this is why Stop & Shop put big googly eyes on its robots!
	6:17pm Ignatatus666: I thought that robot was successful in making a lot of travel, then it was completely destroyed. I also remember the people doing the study did not want to seek who destroyed it nor press charges.
	6:18pm ultradamno: I think robot violence is higher in the UK because they're mistaken for daleks.
	6:18pm Micheal: Thank you to Philly for beheading a robot. That’s punk rock.
	6:18pm listener james from westwood: Doctor Who began early in seeding the way for the Butlerian Jihad.
	6:19pm Ignatatus666: I saw robots patrolling the airports in NYC and it kind of freaked me out a bit.
	6:19pm John from Florham park: @ultradammo or cyber men:)
	🤖 6:19pm Webhamster Henry: Some early research on empathetic Robots: Kismet. web.media.mit.edu...
	6:19pm Daddy Hernlet: The stop & shop I go to has a robot named Marty that detects spills in the aisles
	6:19pm Marley Dogg: Cylons have rights too
	6:19pm listener james from westwood: That clown robot on the playlist looks like Klaus Nomi shtupped RoboCop.
	6:19pm JeremyB: Ken should host a HUMAN vs ROBOT battle for the next marathon!
	6:19pm Daddy Hernlet: I play chicken with him with the shopping cart
	6:20pm ɨkɛ: @ultradamno & @LJfW, LOL LOL LOL
	6:20pm ultradamno: "My love for humans will never fade" - HitchBOT (set up by humans) www.hitchbot.me
	6:20pm listener james from westwood: Same here, @Daddy. Our emits a sinister beep that chills the blood when you hear it nearing.
	6:20pm John from Florham park: @Listener James from Westwood I see your a dune fan
	6:21pm Jack: I wonder how many of these commenters could pass a Turing Test?
	6:21pm Franco Twinkie: My mother hits the faucet in the laundry sink with garden shears if she thinks it's dripping to much. Of course she brakes the faucet, and I have to fix it! I know a faucet isn't a robot, but if my mother had electronic devices, she would smash those too.
	🤖 6:22pm Ken From Hyde Park: The Simpsons has shown us that you can defeat violent robots by blasting them with camera flashes.
	6:22pm greatb: The worst part of the stop and shop robot? They're all called Marty!
	6:22pm Jack: I never claimed to be a human.
	6:22pm listener james from westwood: In my Stop & Shop, three kids had surrounded Marty the Killbot and it was going in small circles trying to find a way through. I left before its blue lights went red and it deployed its pulse laser.
	6:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Marvin - Paranoid Android...
	6:23pm ultradamno: In fairness, who doesn't want to kill this thing? twitter.com...
	6:23pm JeremyB: Wait a second... DOes Mark Hurst not know what a Dalek is?
	6:23pm Rand al'Thor: Nitpick: Daleks aren't robots.
	6:23pm Carmichael: Robot Lives Matter.
	6:23pm Tubie: I just keep thinking of Chappie and Short Circuit
	6:24pm JeremyB: @Rand... you're meant to think they are though
	6:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dalieks have a biologic core...after their creator...all the more faceborg really...
	6:24pm debt collector: I have a robot that feeds our cat when I’m away. I Love it. The cat loves it. Why would anyone attack that robot?
	🤖 6:25pm tim from champaign (now washington): Isn't that what happens to individual humans at the mall? Unless someone is accompanied by an adult, children descend on the lone person and is attacked.
	6:25pm greatb: Marty freaks out if there's so much as a baby carrot on the floor, maybe we're not in much trouble-- yet!
	6:26pm debt collector: @ken from Hyde park you are right how is it possible to tell if mark is a robot or not. He does spill the same seed every show about being against big tech. I mean I agree with him but it is repetition and if I were a robot psychologist I might say he has an issue with his parents, so to robotic speak.
	6:26pm Franco Twinkie: Kids today have it made! When I was ten I had to settle for breaking windows and starting fires.
	6:26pm ɨkɛ: A bit of a tangent, perhaps, but season 11 of Doctor Who is very sad because it sucks so much. The Doctor finally regenerates into a woman and she gets stuck with shitty writing! That poor lady! Come on BBC, throw out this idiot showrunner and get a real writer! A Dalek could write the show better!
	6:27pm ultradamno: Roomba vs. Dog www.gadgetsarena.org...
	🤖 6:27pm tim from champaign (now washington): I don't condone wanton destruction but these stories are very satisfying to hear.
	6:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Reagan as Leader of Free World - AI composed Pop ...it's awlready after the end of the world...
	6:29pm Listener Robert: Children typically act violently toward dolls, so why wouldn't they do so to robots? It's all typical play, and I find it hilarious.
	6:29pm ultradamno: Do they (the scooters) still yell empty threats to call the police when disturbed?
	6:30pm JeremyB: This show isn't great for those of us trying to be less paranoid...
	6:30pm Beepy: The robot custodians at the mall wouldn’t run me over, would they?!
	6:31pm Fuzzy: The Uncanny Valley, starring robot Barbra Stanwyck.
	6:31pm ultradamno: They have drones in Battlebots, but they're useless.
	6:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Frankenstein Syndrome'. Gotcha.
	6:32pm kevlicki: I heard a podcast interviewing professional drone racers. They go to different cities and race on different “courses”
	🤖 6:33pm chresti: People have been destroying machines for a long time
	🤖 6:33pm tim from champaign (now washington): I always wondered how frequently drones are taken out by projectiles.
	6:33pm Tome: Heck with AI this is the chit right here baby , waste anything in its way !<>! > bit.ly...
	🤖 6:33pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hawks and other raptors are being trained to take out drones.
	🤖 6:33pm chresti: ewwww humanoid show!
	6:34pm John in Texas: Is it appropriate to ask if Alexa or Google is listening when we walk into someones home? Or os there some ‘code words’ we can say to see if they are listening?
	6:34pm ultradamno: Frankenstein was alright, just don't meet him near a lake.
	6:34pm Jack: BattleBots is amazing! I love that show!
	🤖 6:35pm chresti: wow @ KFHP
	6:36pm ultradamno: Vice New Tonight had recurring segment in which an art critic attacked AI paintings (which always seemed an insincere exercise since he knew they were by AIs and was predisposed to dismiss the work)
	6:37pm Fuzzy: Westworld is a thought-provoking HBO romp.
	🤖 6:37pm chresti: John, just start insulting it
	6:37pm ultradamno: @Jack, I've posted on this Battlebots story before, but in case you missed it futurism.com...
	6:37pm Meesalikeu: The A.I. lady who yelled out at the Flesh Fair did her own Turing Test — Mechas don’t plead for their lives.
	🤖 6:38pm Ken From Hyde Park: Eagle vs. drone video (about 2:00 mark) - www.petapixel.com...
	6:38pm Marley Dogg: https://youtu.be/2IPAOxrH7Ro
	🤖 6:38pm chresti: Probably if you say google, ect., it activates@John
	6:40pm ultradamno: Are we sure that wasn't part of the Austrian crowd's kink?
	6:40pm John from Florham park: @Chresti are you talking to me
	6:40pm Franco Twinkie: In the 1980's, Survival Research Laboratories would stage guerilla machine warfare events in San Francisco, that were attended by hundreds of people. These shows were dirty, dangerous and a lot of fun! Humans are hard wired to enjoy watching shit get fucked up.
	6:40pm JakeGould: Poor Samantha. www.zdnet.com...
	6:40pm ultradamno: If we learned anything for Ex Machina, sexbots are just waiting for an opening to stab you.
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: Samantha, the abused sex robot: www.nairaland.com...
	🤖 6:41pm Folsom: a robotic baby seal walks into a club....
	6:41pm ultradamno: SRL you tube channel (incredible stuff) www.youtube.com...
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: The movie HER (yeah, ScarJo playing an AI named Samamntha here) was very sympathetic, until she realized she'd rather be with other AIs.
	6:42pm melinda: Therapy animals are still fellow mammals though.
	6:42pm Carmichael: Therapy robots.
	6:42pm melinda: Yeah, robot attackers are the real neo-Luddites
	🤖 6:42pm chresti: The first time we rented a car that had a navigation robot, we weren't very nice to it
	🤖 6:42pm Webhamster Henry: SRL did a show at the Queens museum. They used to come up with new ghastly fighting robots every year.
	6:43pm dale: folsom - HA! good one...
	🤖 6:43pm Ken From Hyde Park: Robotic baby seal therapy doll ... Simpsons did it! simpsons.fandom.com...
	6:43pm Meesalikeu: Yes the sex doll was crudely attacked by men in Oct 2017 at an electronics fair in Austria.
	🤖 6:44pm chresti: John in Texas, John in Florham Park
	6:44pm JakeGould: So human! youtu.be...
	6:45pm JakeGould: Better a robot than a real sex worker being attacked.
	6:45pm ultradamno: The AMC show Humans is all about fraught Human/Robo relations.
	6:46pm Ignatatus666: Fleets of drones have been developed way beyond what we are told. There are drones that once in flight they no longer need human direction. They interact with each other.
	🤖 6:46pm chresti: haha Folsom
	6:46pm Derrik: You guys just set off everyone's Alexa.
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: Siri often decides to mishear me and plays crappy pop songs instead of the Sundanese degung music I asked for.
	6:46pm st Joe: I have watched some documentaries recently where the narrator sounds like ai. I don't know if it's true or not that they're trying to eliminate voice actors.
	6:47pm ultradamno: I've never used Siri or Alexa, I know there are different voice options, are any them more synthetic/robotlike?
	6:47pm Fredericks: Ken, you are just defending your human space on Earth that these robots are attempting to push you out of and fill.
	6:47pm Ignatatus666: I never use either Alexa nor siri . When Siri pops up on my cell phone I speak very bad to it.
	🤖 6:47pm Webhamster Henry: Siri on the Mac Desktop can be set to the really old Mac voices which are plenty robotic!
	6:48pm Derrik: Alexa often decides not to listen to me. It's like having a teenager in the house. Must be a feature.
	6:49pm Fuzzy: I hope Owl Sun and Ichibunny aren't listening now.
	6:49pm katsavage: I used to get very mad at Clippy.
	🤖 6:49pm chresti: Raptors are smart
	6:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There's a Bradbury story where a guy is busted for killing a robot facsimile of wifey - because the principle...
	6:49pm greatb: Marty, Alexa, Siri, they're all garbage! And I don't have to worry about the inhumane-ness of calling them that- cause they're machines!
	6:50pm melinda: I found once that telling an automated phone service that I wanted to speak to a representative worked, even though it hadn't been offered as an option.
	6:50pm Fredericks: Didn't a woman lose a piece of her nose to a drone?
	6:50pm JakeGould: @Ignatatus666: “Fleets of drones have been developed way beyond what we are told. There are drones that once in flight they no longer need human direction. They interact with each other.” What’s the proof of this?
	6:50pm John from Florham park: I never use Siri
	6:51pm melinda: I don't use Siri either.
	6:52pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: FMUvians : I forgot to get a career. I do the minimum admissible amount automatically per month. You can do that too. Everyone.
	6:52pm Fuzzy: In (insert country here) Siri uses YOU.
	6:53pm John in Texas: Maybe we can create something like a dog whistle that we cant hear but jams Alexa/Google/Siri.. sub sonic jammer....
	6:53pm st Joe: Bixby anyone ? my Android is constantly trying to get me to open Bixby everytime I slide the wrong way there's Bixby. screw you Bixby!
	6:54pm JakeGould: “The people mounted Samantha's breasts, her legs, and arms. Two fingers were broken. She was heavily soiled. People can be bad. Because they did not understand the technology and did not have to pay for it, they treated the doll like barbarians.”
	6:54pm Carmichael: People will attack robots until a robot kills someone.
	6:55pm greatb: Why shouldn't robots stay robotic, as the computer on Star Trek Next Generation etc
	🤖 6:55pm Webhamster Henry: And then there's FURBY.
	6:55pm Ignatatus666: @Jake Possibly on the Tube. I watched a documentary on it.
	6:56pm ultradamno: Battlebots weight limit is like 250 lbs
	6:56pm Ignatatus666: XMachina was excellent
	6:56pm Fuzzy: Westworld again.
	6:56pm Carmichael: It all started with Tickle Me Elmo ...
	6:57pm melinda: I didn't finish watching Her, it was dull and hard to get into. Also hard to believe the robot was a robot when you know it's Scarlet Johanson.
	6:57pm JakeGould: The guy who created the M5 computer to replace humans in Star Trek meets the crew of the Enterprise. youtu.be... @Ignatatus666: Sounds interesting!
	6:57pm Jack: There's a movie on the spanish language channel starring Will Smith called "Yo Robot"
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Thanks Mark and SM Ken!
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Haha Carmichael!
	6:57pm Purble: Ex machinas dance scene was like
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Season 4 of Agents Of Shield is full of robots and simulated life.
	6:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cheers... : m.imdb.com...
	6:59pm Franco Twinkie: Ken was great! He obviously loves what is happening to the poor robots!
	6:59pm tak: if i could fave a comment Jack
	7:00pm Niche4123: These delights have ends
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: What's going on in Area 51 with military robots? They're probably working on massive robot-on-human violence.
	7:00pm melinda: @Franco I agree
	7:00pm greatb: Just pulled up a great clip of Data talking to the Computer on TNG- and having a tough time getting through the prompts
	7:01pm Franco Twinkie: Ken, You know payback is right around the corner.
	7:01pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Good discussion tonight.
	7:23pm Mark Hurst: p.s. this thread, about Boston Dynamics - from a tech conference today: twitter.com...

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from October 21, 2019

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October 21, 2019: Station Manager Ken Freedman: human-on-robot violence

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• Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests enter my home (BBC, Oct 15)

• Will Oremus on Zuck's Georgetown speech

• Mayor of Sardinian village blames Google Maps for lost tourists (Guardian, Oct 15): "Rescuers in Baunei called out 144 times in past year to save visitors from impassable roads... 'Google Maps does not take people to the places they want to go.'"

• You Can Now License Your Face to Be Used on a Humanoid Robot (Oddity Central, Oct 18)

• Help, I Can't Unsee These Faux-Flesh Phone Cases (Gizmodo, Oct 19)

• Robot Realtors coming to a neighborhood near you (Tennessean, Oct 2): "Home buyers are being greeted by robots when a human sales person isn’t available on site. The robots, officially called Innovative Sales Consultants, are essentially like Segways with an iPad on top of it."

• Palmer Luckey's military tech company Anduril is sending drone destroyers to conflict zones (Business Insider, Oct 3): "The firm says its new 'Interceptor' drone weighs about as much as a bowling ball and is capable of smashing other drones out of the sky."

• People Are Brutally Assaulting Robots. Experts Want to Know Why

• Humans attacking robots over mistrust and fears they will take their jobs (Daily Star, Sep 30)

• British employees are deliberately sabotaging workplace robots over fears the machines will take their jobs, new study claims (Daily Mail, Sep 29)

• Olivia Solon (Oct 8): "Someone tried to use the emergency call function on a robot 'police officer' after a fight broke out in an LA park and - surprise, surprise - it didn't actually call the police. Instead it called the robot's maker, iKnightscope ... The robot told the woman who pressed the emergency alert button to 'step out of the way.'"

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Listener comments!
	6:00pm listener james from westwood: Howdy Mark, Ken, listeners, thinly disguised cyborgs time-traveling in from a machine-ruled future, and Roombas.
	6:00pm ultradamno: Hello Mark! Ken! Techs Machiñatas!
	6:00pm Marley Dogg: Ahooy ahooy
	6:01pm -Ken: Hi everybody!
	6:01pm John from Florham park: Hello fellow technoids
	6:02pm Fuzzy: Talk tech to me, baby!
	6:02pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Btw- Mark - get Kenzo on. ...He said I should promote this & I just have...
	🤖 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: Good evening, Mark. Or possibly Robotic Mark. How would we tell? Hey there, SMK (definitely not a robot). Hello, fellow Techtodrones.
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends!
	6:03pm ultradamno: Hitchbot vs. Philadelphia www.cnn.com...
	6:03pm Marley Dogg: Sky net always wins
	🤖 6:03pm Webhamster Henry: I'm playing with training a GPT-2 in another window right now.
	🤖 6:04pm Webhamster Henry: Play a bit from the famous "Robot Andy" 7SD show!
	6:04pm kevlicki: Hey mark and all. There’s an unusual app that was created for the Catalonian demonstrations Called tsunami democratic
	6:04pm Carmichael: Ken is answering questions through his BBS site.
	🤖 6:04pm chresti: Hello Techtoniacs and Mark
	6:04pm kevlicki: The app supposedly tells you where there’s a protest nearby that you can join
	🤖 6:04pm tim from champaign (now washington): This is a subject made for X-Ray Burns.
	6:05pm melinda: Hi Mark, Ken and techtons!
	6:06pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I want all the money - & all the control...& No Accountability! ...top of my CV...
	6:07pm iiibeat: From dictionary.com . . Origin of robot < Czech, coined by Karel Čapek in the play R.U.R. (1920) from the base robot-, as in robota compulsory labor, robotník peasant owing such labor
	6:07pm listener james from westwood: Zuck would give his right ass cheek to get China on FB.
	🤖 6:08pm Folsom: You have 20 seconds to comply!!
	6:08pm ultradamno: Onion people talk back to Zuck's free speech manifesto www.theonion.com...
	6:08pm Ike: So if I DL that app and put a lot of Winnie the Pooh memes on there, my phone will explode?
	6:08pm iiibeat: It's Czech, mate!!
	6:10pm Fuzzy: Best description of ZuckerBug I have seen: "a wax doll cursed to life."
	6:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Considering faceborg was started because he in fact had no social network...
	6:12pm Franco Twinkie: Well, The New Yorker had a piece on Tic-Toc recently, written by a young-ish person who seemed to be exasperated and confounded by this latest time wasting obsession aimed at fourteen year olds. What next? Who Cares? Oh, I forgot those fourteen year olds are the new overloards. Bah!
	6:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cartoon: Man entering friend's place: 'Alexa! Order 100 pizzas!'...
	6:13pm ultradamno: I'm intrigued on this licensing one's face for a humanoid robot idea, if only to have a potential patsy on hand.
	6:13pm Ignatatus666: I think we should be informed that the host has these devices They are basically recording us without permission
	6:14pm Dave Miss: Hello from BK
	6:14pm debt collector: Of course zuckerberg is willing to take ads from everyone. Of course those with money who can pay for ads, those who have the most to gain from influencing people, those who have the most to lose from daylight will be those who have already extracted wealth from the rest of us. Capitalists, despots, and tyrants are winning the game and zuckerberg is their agent!!!!
	🤖 6:16pm Webhamster Henry: @ultrademo: in the Marvel world, they're called "Live Model Decoys", or LMDs. In "Bill & Ted II", they are called "Robot Evil Us'es".
	6:17pm listener james from westwood: Remember Robert Williams, the first martyr to the robot menace: en.wikipedia.org...
	6:17pm ɨkɛ: Oh, maybe this is why Stop & Shop put big googly eyes on its robots!
	6:17pm Ignatatus666: I thought that robot was successful in making a lot of travel, then it was completely destroyed. I also remember the people doing the study did not want to seek who destroyed it nor press charges.
	6:18pm ultradamno: I think robot violence is higher in the UK because they're mistaken for daleks.
	6:18pm Micheal: Thank you to Philly for beheading a robot. That’s punk rock.
	6:18pm listener james from westwood: Doctor Who began early in seeding the way for the Butlerian Jihad.
	6:19pm Ignatatus666: I saw robots patrolling the airports in NYC and it kind of freaked me out a bit.
	6:19pm John from Florham park: @ultradammo or cyber men:)
	🤖 6:19pm Webhamster Henry: Some early research on empathetic Robots: Kismet. web.media.mit.edu...
	6:19pm Daddy Hernlet: The stop & shop I go to has a robot named Marty that detects spills in the aisles
	6:19pm Marley Dogg: Cylons have rights too
	6:19pm listener james from westwood: That clown robot on the playlist looks like Klaus Nomi shtupped RoboCop.
	6:19pm JeremyB: Ken should host a HUMAN vs ROBOT battle for the next marathon!
	6:19pm Daddy Hernlet: I play chicken with him with the shopping cart
	6:20pm ɨkɛ: @ultradamno & @LJfW, LOL LOL LOL
	6:20pm ultradamno: "My love for humans will never fade" - HitchBOT (set up by humans) www.hitchbot.me
	6:20pm listener james from westwood: Same here, @Daddy. Our emits a sinister beep that chills the blood when you hear it nearing.
	6:20pm John from Florham park: @Listener James from Westwood I see your a dune fan
	6:21pm Jack: I wonder how many of these commenters could pass a Turing Test?
	6:21pm Franco Twinkie: My mother hits the faucet in the laundry sink with garden shears if she thinks it's dripping to much. Of course she brakes the faucet, and I have to fix it! I know a faucet isn't a robot, but if my mother had electronic devices, she would smash those too.
	🤖 6:22pm Ken From Hyde Park: The Simpsons has shown us that you can defeat violent robots by blasting them with camera flashes.
	6:22pm greatb: The worst part of the stop and shop robot? They're all called Marty!
	6:22pm Jack: I never claimed to be a human.
	6:22pm listener james from westwood: In my Stop & Shop, three kids had surrounded Marty the Killbot and it was going in small circles trying to find a way through. I left before its blue lights went red and it deployed its pulse laser.
	6:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...Marvin - Paranoid Android...
	6:23pm ultradamno: In fairness, who doesn't want to kill this thing? twitter.com...
	6:23pm JeremyB: Wait a second... DOes Mark Hurst not know what a Dalek is?
	6:23pm Rand al'Thor: Nitpick: Daleks aren't robots.
	6:23pm Carmichael: Robot Lives Matter.
	6:23pm Tubie: I just keep thinking of Chappie and Short Circuit
	6:24pm JeremyB: @Rand... you're meant to think they are though
	6:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Dalieks have a biologic core...after their creator...all the more faceborg really...
	6:24pm debt collector: I have a robot that feeds our cat when I’m away. I Love it. The cat loves it. Why would anyone attack that robot?
	🤖 6:25pm tim from champaign (now washington): Isn't that what happens to individual humans at the mall? Unless someone is accompanied by an adult, children descend on the lone person and is attacked.
	6:25pm greatb: Marty freaks out if there's so much as a baby carrot on the floor, maybe we're not in much trouble-- yet!
	6:26pm debt collector: @ken from Hyde park you are right how is it possible to tell if mark is a robot or not. He does spill the same seed every show about being against big tech. I mean I agree with him but it is repetition and if I were a robot psychologist I might say he has an issue with his parents, so to robotic speak.
	6:26pm Franco Twinkie: Kids today have it made! When I was ten I had to settle for breaking windows and starting fires.
	6:26pm ɨkɛ: A bit of a tangent, perhaps, but season 11 of Doctor Who is very sad because it sucks so much. The Doctor finally regenerates into a woman and she gets stuck with shitty writing! That poor lady! Come on BBC, throw out this idiot showrunner and get a real writer! A Dalek could write the show better!
	6:27pm ultradamno: Roomba vs. Dog www.gadgetsarena.org...
	🤖 6:27pm tim from champaign (now washington): I don't condone wanton destruction but these stories are very satisfying to hear.
	6:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Reagan as Leader of Free World - AI composed Pop ...it's awlready after the end of the world...
	6:29pm Listener Robert: Children typically act violently toward dolls, so why wouldn't they do so to robots? It's all typical play, and I find it hilarious.
	6:29pm ultradamno: Do they (the scooters) still yell empty threats to call the police when disturbed?
	6:30pm JeremyB: This show isn't great for those of us trying to be less paranoid...
	6:30pm Beepy: The robot custodians at the mall wouldn’t run me over, would they?!
	6:31pm Fuzzy: The Uncanny Valley, starring robot Barbra Stanwyck.
	6:31pm ultradamno: They have drones in Battlebots, but they're useless.
	6:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Frankenstein Syndrome'. Gotcha.
	6:32pm kevlicki: I heard a podcast interviewing professional drone racers. They go to different cities and race on different “courses”
	🤖 6:33pm chresti: People have been destroying machines for a long time
	🤖 6:33pm tim from champaign (now washington): I always wondered how frequently drones are taken out by projectiles.
	6:33pm Tome: Heck with AI this is the chit right here baby , waste anything in its way !<>! > bit.ly...
	🤖 6:33pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hawks and other raptors are being trained to take out drones.
	🤖 6:33pm chresti: ewwww humanoid show!
	6:34pm John in Texas: Is it appropriate to ask if Alexa or Google is listening when we walk into someones home? Or os there some ‘code words’ we can say to see if they are listening?
	6:34pm ultradamno: Frankenstein was alright, just don't meet him near a lake.
	6:34pm Jack: BattleBots is amazing! I love that show!
	🤖 6:35pm chresti: wow @ KFHP
	6:36pm ultradamno: Vice New Tonight had recurring segment in which an art critic attacked AI paintings (which always seemed an insincere exercise since he knew they were by AIs and was predisposed to dismiss the work)
	6:37pm Fuzzy: Westworld is a thought-provoking HBO romp.
	🤖 6:37pm chresti: John, just start insulting it
	6:37pm ultradamno: @Jack, I've posted on this Battlebots story before, but in case you missed it futurism.com...
	6:37pm Meesalikeu: The A.I. lady who yelled out at the Flesh Fair did her own Turing Test — Mechas don’t plead for their lives.
	🤖 6:38pm Ken From Hyde Park: Eagle vs. drone video (about 2:00 mark) - www.petapixel.com...
	6:38pm Marley Dogg: https://youtu.be/2IPAOxrH7Ro
	🤖 6:38pm chresti: Probably if you say google, ect., it activates@John
	6:40pm ultradamno: Are we sure that wasn't part of the Austrian crowd's kink?
	6:40pm John from Florham park: @Chresti are you talking to me
	6:40pm Franco Twinkie: In the 1980's, Survival Research Laboratories would stage guerilla machine warfare events in San Francisco, that were attended by hundreds of people. These shows were dirty, dangerous and a lot of fun! Humans are hard wired to enjoy watching shit get fucked up.
	6:40pm JakeGould: Poor Samantha. www.zdnet.com...
	6:40pm ultradamno: If we learned anything for Ex Machina, sexbots are just waiting for an opening to stab you.
	🤖 6:40pm Webhamster Henry: Samantha, the abused sex robot: www.nairaland.com...
	🤖 6:41pm Folsom: a robotic baby seal walks into a club....
	6:41pm ultradamno: SRL you tube channel (incredible stuff) www.youtube.com...
	🤖 6:41pm Webhamster Henry: The movie HER (yeah, ScarJo playing an AI named Samamntha here) was very sympathetic, until she realized she'd rather be with other AIs.
	6:42pm melinda: Therapy animals are still fellow mammals though.
	6:42pm Carmichael: Therapy robots.
	6:42pm melinda: Yeah, robot attackers are the real neo-Luddites
	🤖 6:42pm chresti: The first time we rented a car that had a navigation robot, we weren't very nice to it
	🤖 6:42pm Webhamster Henry: SRL did a show at the Queens museum. They used to come up with new ghastly fighting robots every year.
	6:43pm dale: folsom - HA! good one...
	🤖 6:43pm Ken From Hyde Park: Robotic baby seal therapy doll ... Simpsons did it! simpsons.fandom.com...
	6:43pm Meesalikeu: Yes the sex doll was crudely attacked by men in Oct 2017 at an electronics fair in Austria.
	🤖 6:44pm chresti: John in Texas, John in Florham Park
	6:44pm JakeGould: So human! youtu.be...
	6:45pm JakeGould: Better a robot than a real sex worker being attacked.
	6:45pm ultradamno: The AMC show Humans is all about fraught Human/Robo relations.
	6:46pm Ignatatus666: Fleets of drones have been developed way beyond what we are told. There are drones that once in flight they no longer need human direction. They interact with each other.
	🤖 6:46pm chresti: haha Folsom
	6:46pm Derrik: You guys just set off everyone's Alexa.
	🤖 6:46pm Webhamster Henry: Siri often decides to mishear me and plays crappy pop songs instead of the Sundanese degung music I asked for.
	6:46pm st Joe: I have watched some documentaries recently where the narrator sounds like ai. I don't know if it's true or not that they're trying to eliminate voice actors.
	6:47pm ultradamno: I've never used Siri or Alexa, I know there are different voice options, are any them more synthetic/robotlike?
	6:47pm Fredericks: Ken, you are just defending your human space on Earth that these robots are attempting to push you out of and fill.
	6:47pm Ignatatus666: I never use either Alexa nor siri . When Siri pops up on my cell phone I speak very bad to it.
	🤖 6:47pm Webhamster Henry: Siri on the Mac Desktop can be set to the really old Mac voices which are plenty robotic!
	6:48pm Derrik: Alexa often decides not to listen to me. It's like having a teenager in the house. Must be a feature.
	6:49pm Fuzzy: I hope Owl Sun and Ichibunny aren't listening now.
	6:49pm katsavage: I used to get very mad at Clippy.
	🤖 6:49pm chresti: Raptors are smart
	6:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: There's a Bradbury story where a guy is busted for killing a robot facsimile of wifey - because the principle...
	6:49pm greatb: Marty, Alexa, Siri, they're all garbage! And I don't have to worry about the inhumane-ness of calling them that- cause they're machines!
	6:50pm melinda: I found once that telling an automated phone service that I wanted to speak to a representative worked, even though it hadn't been offered as an option.
	6:50pm Fredericks: Didn't a woman lose a piece of her nose to a drone?
	6:50pm JakeGould: @Ignatatus666: “Fleets of drones have been developed way beyond what we are told. There are drones that once in flight they no longer need human direction. They interact with each other.” What’s the proof of this?
	6:50pm John from Florham park: I never use Siri
	6:51pm melinda: I don't use Siri either.
	6:52pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: FMUvians : I forgot to get a career. I do the minimum admissible amount automatically per month. You can do that too. Everyone.
	6:52pm Fuzzy: In (insert country here) Siri uses YOU.
	6:53pm John in Texas: Maybe we can create something like a dog whistle that we cant hear but jams Alexa/Google/Siri.. sub sonic jammer....
	6:53pm st Joe: Bixby anyone ? my Android is constantly trying to get me to open Bixby everytime I slide the wrong way there's Bixby. screw you Bixby!
	6:54pm JakeGould: “The people mounted Samantha's breasts, her legs, and arms. Two fingers were broken. She was heavily soiled. People can be bad. Because they did not understand the technology and did not have to pay for it, they treated the doll like barbarians.”
	6:54pm Carmichael: People will attack robots until a robot kills someone.
	6:55pm greatb: Why shouldn't robots stay robotic, as the computer on Star Trek Next Generation etc
	🤖 6:55pm Webhamster Henry: And then there's FURBY.
	6:55pm Ignatatus666: @Jake Possibly on the Tube. I watched a documentary on it.
	6:56pm ultradamno: Battlebots weight limit is like 250 lbs
	6:56pm Ignatatus666: XMachina was excellent
	6:56pm Fuzzy: Westworld again.
	6:56pm Carmichael: It all started with Tickle Me Elmo ...
	6:57pm melinda: I didn't finish watching Her, it was dull and hard to get into. Also hard to believe the robot was a robot when you know it's Scarlet Johanson.
	6:57pm JakeGould: The guy who created the M5 computer to replace humans in Star Trek meets the crew of the Enterprise. youtu.be... @Ignatatus666: Sounds interesting!
	6:57pm Jack: There's a movie on the spanish language channel starring Will Smith called "Yo Robot"
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Thanks Mark and SM Ken!
	🤖 6:57pm chresti: Haha Carmichael!
	6:57pm Purble: Ex machinas dance scene was like
	🤖 6:58pm Webhamster Henry: Season 4 of Agents Of Shield is full of robots and simulated life.
	6:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cheers... : m.imdb.com...
	6:59pm Franco Twinkie: Ken was great! He obviously loves what is happening to the poor robots!
	6:59pm tak: if i could fave a comment Jack
	7:00pm Niche4123: These delights have ends
	🤖 7:00pm Ken From Hyde Park: What's going on in Area 51 with military robots? They're probably working on massive robot-on-human violence.
	7:00pm melinda: @Franco I agree
	7:00pm greatb: Just pulled up a great clip of Data talking to the Computer on TNG- and having a tough time getting through the prompts
	7:01pm Franco Twinkie: Ken, You know payback is right around the corner.
	7:01pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone! Good discussion tonight.
	7:23pm Mark Hurst: p.s. this thread, about Boston Dynamics - from a tech conference today: twitter.com...

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