WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from October 28, 2019

Listener comments!
	9:15pm chresti: Hello divine horse!
	9:19pm Chris: Haha Kanye West certainly does have so eccentricities that are troubling. I didn’t know Allen Ginsburg made music. How interesting. I have made the Milton Friedman choir my college’s theme song (except nobody knows this)
	9:21pm Sam Segal: Holy Chresti!
	9:24pm Sam Segal: @Chris: That Minton Friedman choir song is just eerie enough to be the perfect college fight song! Allen Ginsberg didn't make a ton of music but the stuff he did put out is fantastic.
	9:26pm Dean: Sequentia, "Plebs Domini," the apotheosis of religious music. I promise. It is stunning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86eJ6ptzkSs
	9:26pm Sam Segal: Thanks, Dean! I'll check it out.
	9:27pm Chris: Yeah that was a fabulous song. I think he spent a lot of his later years in the Pacific Northwest
	9:30pm Franco Twinkie: I don't know what to make of this Kanye Business. To say I'm skeptical of him elevating himself to such an exalted position is besides the point. He's a nut of out sized proportions, which I guess is perfect for todays mixed up and frightening America. Ultimately who cares? No one I talk to. Bah! more baloney for a world that gorges on all kinds of junk food.
	9:31pm Dean: My take is Kanye is pretty much untalented, which is OK. Same goes for Puff Daddy, a bunch of those guys. Good on them for trying, but I'm not impressed.
	9:32pm Chris: Thanks for the Beck recommendation Franco. I didn’t know he had such a distinct sound. Was rocking out to it last week. Thanks for the entertainment Sam. I gotta run can’t study and enjoy the show together. Happy Halloween!
	9:33pm Sam Segal: I came of age during peak Kanye hype, and I will never not see him as one of the greats, but I have no way of knowing whether that's completely deluded or not. Hell, it probably is. But I am okay with that!
	9:34pm Franco Twinkie: You're welcome Chris.
	9:35pm northguineahills: I remember when a coworker gave me Kanye's College Dropout to listen to. It check off all of the boxes of what should be good poppy hiphop, but it didn't do anything for me...
	9:35pm Dean: Yes. It is deluded. For that matter, Beck. Really? Granted, I avoided his work, nevertheless I heard it because somebody played it. He did what?
	9:38pm Sam Segal: @NGH, may I suggest trying some of his more idiosyncratic work? Yeezus or 808s & Heartbreak. Both masterpieces to me.
	9:40pm Franco Twinkie: Well Dean, One mans baloney is another fellows Zankou Chicken.
	9:43pm Dean: You can't get more tautological than that.
	9:50pm chresti: diluted
	9:57pm Franco Twinkie: Speaking of the same damn thing, Dean. Chresti just gave me a gluten free rice cracker that tasted just like a communion wafer, and I liked it! Unlike the real deal, which I would hold in my mouth until I could spit it under the pew, I swallowed It!
	10:00pm chresti: Beck has some good dance numbers.
	10:02pm Sam Segal: I always loved this ballad by Beck called "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime." Only thing of his I ever really got into. Speaking of religion, Beck's one of indie rock's favorite Scientologists!
	10:02pm chresti: Haven't heard much Kanye music
	10:05pm Sam Segal: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy would be the best place to start, Chresti.
	10:05pm chresti: Do you think that most famous musicians have large heads? Or maybe it's small bodies?
	10:05pm Franco Twinkie: Sam, That is probably true, which makes you wonder, buT unlike Kanye West, he keeps his goddamned mouth shut about it.
	10:09pm Sam Segal: A Scientology turn for Kanye certainly seems within the realm of possibility.
	10:10pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam and exalted horse-people
	10:11pm Sam Segal: Brother Coel! Welcome!
	10:16pm John from Florham park: @Chestri your lucky you do not listen to Kanye music I for one think he sucks
	10:20pm Sam Segal: Folks, I understand not liking Kanye West's music. I do. If his music weren't so good, I'd be right there with you! John, hello!
	10:21pm chresti: I don't agree @John from FP
	10:21pm Franco Twinkie: Regarding Carlos Santana and his spiritual preoccupations, Way,way back in the way back, a friend of mine worked at this place in San Francisco that sold and serviced old jukeboxes. Carlos came in and bought a particularly classy box for his beloved collection of 45's. When it was delivered to Chez Santana, one of his religious minders fell on the floor at begged him to return this worldly appliance to the heathens who sold it to him. Carlos blithely ignored him I was told.
	10:23pm Sam Segal: Oh man, that's a hell of an anecdote, Franco. Way to have some backbone, Santana!
	10:24pm Franco Twinkie: He wears some funny hats, but the dude is a stone rocker!
	10:28pm coelacanth∅: what sort of religion or spiritual idea does Carlos Santana relate to that one of his "religious minders" might freak out over a beautiful old piece of history and function in the form of a jukebox?
	10:29pm Dean: In short, I blame Steely Dan. They opened the door to mediocrity, by which I mean, inter alia, Kanye and most lazy-ass male rappers, Sea & Cake, Tortoise, bands that assume their precious observations are sufficient...bland music that says much but doesn't do much.
	10:30pm Franco Twinkie: You got me on that one, Coel.
	10:31pm Sam Segal: Kanye did flip a great Steely Dan sample, but that's the first time I've heard him brought up in the same breath as Tortoise. Talk about a dream collaboration!
	10:32pm still b/p: Remember when Jesus drove the record-changers out of the temple?
	10:37pm chresti: Haha still b/p
	10:37pm coelacanth∅: well yeah s b/p but that's just cuz he was all hopped up on his new dat deck.
	10:38pm Carmichael: Heya Sam and others.
	10:39pm Franco Twinkie: Dean, you crack me up! Once again you're just lobbing spit balls from the back of the class room, and you don't care who you hit just as long as you get someone to react. I admire your persistence.
	10:40pm coelacanth∅: hahaha
	10:40pm Dean: You're right, Franco, except for the fact that I'm aiming quite precisely.
	10:42pm coelacanth∅: i used to be a pretty good shot with the spitballs...except i thought it was gross so i chose my targets with purpose.
	10:43pm coelacanth∅: (...that's not a commentary on Dean's spitfire, in case it seems so)
	10:44pm Carmichael: @dean, “the royal scam”.
	10:44pm chresti: I don't think I ever heard the rapping Tortoise
	10:44pm Franco Twinkie: I would just mouth off until some one laughed. It worked about 12% of the time.
	10:45pm coelacanth∅: what is this "tortoise"? and do i actually need to know?
	10:46pm coelacanth∅: 12% is not very good, Franco
	10:46pm chresti: Some vapid rapper?
	10:48pm chresti: A vapid rapper named Tortoise, that is?
	10:48pm still b/p: Vapid Rapper...now, that's a superhero from which outfit, Marvel or DC?
	10:49pm Dean: Royal Scam, yep. That's the only SD album I own, and I play it now and then, knowing that it will haunt me. "Kid Charlemagne," in particular, gives me endless nightmares. Tortoise is one of those dull Chicago bands that makes me weep every time I have to go to Chicago. Other than Provo, UT, it's the most boring town in America.
	10:49pm coelacanth∅: or a lame pop act with a hint of "jazz"? either way i think i'm all set.
	10:49pm chresti: I have my spitball shield on and am heading to bed, thanks Sam!
	10:50pm coelacanth∅: somebody get her on the way out!
	10:50pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Chresti!
	10:51pm coelacanth∅: oh, i mean g'night chresti!
	10:52pm northguineahills: Alice!
	10:53pm coelacanth∅: i have several steely dan albums. but the only ones that have gotten played more than once in the last 35 years are pretzel logic and parts of can't buy a thrill.
	10:54pm Carmichael: Alice, Alice, who the f*ck is Alice!
	10:55pm Franco Twinkie: Coel, Even as loudmouth, I was a failure. Thank god for the vocational arts.
	10:55pm coelacanth∅: (i mean the other way 'round. all of can't buy a thrill and some of pretzel logic)
	10:56pm coelacanth∅: Carm just some chick that all the young girls love.
	10:56pm Sam Segal: Alice doesn't live here anymore, Carm!
	10:56pm Dean: That's Steely Dan for you. Some of this, or maybe all? Or maybe some? They should have quit while they were ahead...except they were never ahead.
	10:57pm still b/p: But ya gots to play Katy Lied while driving to sing along with Dr. Wu....right?
	10:58pm Carmichael: If you’ve heard the Smokie song Living Next Door to Alice, that’s the popular pub refrain.
	11:00pm Sam Segal: Doesn't get much better than Dr. Wu down the 405, SBP (to be clear, I am not speaking from experience),
	11:02pm still b/p: 405 all smoky hot just now.
	11:03pm coelacanth∅: when steely dan was "relevant"(?) -the 70s- they were a group that young music lovers could listen to and whereby claim some level of sophistication beyond what was standard fare for most of the other high school students. partly because of the production, arrangements and execution; not necessarily so much the compositions themselves.
	11:05pm coelacanth∅: i'm not suggesting they actually were more sophisticated than, say black sabbath or marshall tucker band; though i'm not saying they weren't...
	11:06pm coelacanth∅: (-led zeppelin or grateful dead, etc.)
	11:07pm Carmichael: @coel, they weren’t ...
	11:15pm Dean: coelacanth, you are exactly right, except that I question whether their production, arrangements, or execution actually amounted to much. I believe the band wanted to excel at boredom, and they most certainly did.
	11:16pm northguineahills: I saw someone online poo-pooing Prince's music as mediocre pop music, today. I think I sprained my brain reading it....
	11:18pm Dean: No comment.
	11:18pm Sam Segal: Blasphemy, NGH!
	11:18pm Sam Segal: Dean, I had a feeling you might be heading in that direction...no comment!
	11:22pm coelacanth∅: i always got a bit bored when someone would put a steely dan album on, back in the day. i really liked some songs though. i enjoyed it when we were stoned. i do think the production was good; and they were no more boring than the 'dead in the 70s, which also required the effects of cannabis for enjoyment.
	11:28pm coelacanth∅: ...but my comment at 11.03 is based on it's relation to other music teenagers in the 70s were mostly listening to. i was also listening to prog, which is obviously more sophisticated (in general) but i wouldn't compare it to that. my use of the word "sophisticated" (@11.03) should not be taken as my opinion or my terminology.
	11:30pm Franco Twinkie: Okay, I just had a hot shower and I'm ready to kick a dead dog. I think I booted all my Steely Dan records in the late 70's so I could pay the rent. But unlike a lot of stuff I should have kept, I don't miss them. To me, they were like a carton of sour milk - It's not going to turn into cheese if you keep it around, It's just going to continue to stink.
	11:33pm coelacanth∅: yeah i probably wont be keeping my steely dan albums if i get around to parting company with my records before i die. some of them are near mint too, as i didn't play them much.
	11:34pm coelacanth∅: (even though i don't think they all totally stink)
	11:38pm Franco Twinkie: No they don't, but music stops been meaningful. I liked a lot of bands that don't mean a goddamned thing to me anymore.
	11:41pm coelacanth∅: Franco, true, and same here
	11:52pm northguineahills: Digging this Nishimura, thanks Sam and everyones, night!
	11:54pm Sam Segal: Cheers, NGH! Thanks for hanging out.
	11:55pm Franco Twinkie: We are rounding the corner and I am ready to be flat and unconscious. All the sparring made me quite happy. Thanks guys.
	11:56pm northguineahills: this music may be relevant to my interests....
	11:58pm Sam Segal: Thanks for sticking around and jousting, Franco!
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: hey Sam 'you know there's someone (i shan't name) on the new jungle room stream that uses this same bed music?
	12:01am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam! good night everyone take care
	12:02am Sam Segal: Ha! I had no idea. It does have the perfect elevator music vibe I'm going for, so I am not surprised someone else is hip to it.
	12:02am coelacanth∅: that's kind of what he said!

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October 28, 2019: Get Ready for the Divine Horse: A Selection of Sacred, Spiritual, and Religious Musics for the Enlightened Horse Listener

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Kanye West	Every Hour (ft. Sunday Service Choir)	JESUS IS KING	GOOD Music / Def Jam	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Kanye West	Follow God "Follow God" by "Kanye West"	JESUS IS KING	GOOD Music / Def Jam	0:03:11 (Pop-up)
The Masters of Music	Troubles Don't Last Always	Greg Belson's Divine Disco: American Gospel Disco 1974 to 1985	Cultures of Soul	0:04:38 (Pop-up)
Tonistics	Dimona (Spiritual Capital of the World)	Soul Messages from Dimona	Numero Group	0:07:31 (Pop-up)

Allen Ginsberg	Gospel Noble Truths	First Blues	John Hammond	0:18:21 (Pop-up)
Charles Lloyd	TM "TM" by "Charles Lloyd"	Waves	A&M	0:23:09 (Pop-up)
Beach Boys	Transcendental Meditation	Friends	Capitol	0:27:12 (Pop-up)
Purple Mountains	Margaritas at the Mall	Purple Mountains	Drag City	0:28:48 (Pop-up)
Spiritual Harmonizers	God's Love "God's Love" by "Spiritual Harmonizers"	Good God! Apocryphal Hymns	Numero Group	0:32:58 (Pop-up)
The Fabulous Luckett Brothers	Help Me to Carry On	Christians Catch Hell: Gospel Roots 1976-79	Honest Jon's	0:35:27 (Pop-up)
Jon Madof	Dovid Melech "Dovid Melech" by "Jon Madof"	Zion80	Tzadik	0:38:03 (Pop-up)
Konkere Beats	Homage to Ogun "Homage to Ogun" by "Konkere Beats"	Yoruba! Songs & Rhythms For The Yoruba Gods In Nigeria	Soul Jazz	0:44:47 (Pop-up)

Sergius Golowin	Die Weiße Alm "Die Weiße Alm" by "Sergius Golowin"	Lord Krishna von Goloka	ZYX	0:58:13 (Pop-up)
Carlos Santana & John McLaughlin	The Life Divine	Love Devotion Surrender	Columbia	1:03:21 (Pop-up)
Glenn Spearman	Rituals "Rituals" by "Glenn Spearman"	Blues for Falasha	Tzadik	1:12:25 (Pop-up)
Sharif Idu and Group	Lehra "Lehra" by "Sharif Idu and Group"	Punjabi Potpourri	Imports	1:17:43 (Pop-up)
Masada String Trio	Malkiel "Malkiel" by "Masada String Trio"	Haborym: The Book Of Angels Vol. 16	Tzadik	1:21:10 (Pop-up)
Machtenberg's Male Choir	Arashas S'fosenu	Cantors, Klezmorim and Crooners 1905-1953: Classic Yiddish 78s From the Mayrent Collection	JSP	1:25:28 (Pop-up)
Ostad Elahi	Tan Amiri "Tan Amiri" by "Ostad Elahi"	Spiritual Epic	Truspace	1:28:35 (Pop-up)
Sultan Hamid	Taqsim In Maqám Hejaz / Saut / Nazla In Maqám Rost	Music In The World Of Islam: The Human Voice / Lutes	Topic	1:31:31 (Pop-up)

Qawwali Of Amir Khusrou	Roop Saroop Jalwa Fadan	Land Of The Sufis: Soul Music From The Indus Valley	Shanachie	1:48:07 (Pop-up)
Alice Coltrane	Hari Narayan "Hari Narayan" by "Alice Coltrane"	World Spirituality Classics 1, The Ecstatic Music Of Alice Coltrane	Luaka Bop	1:50:27 (Pop-up)
James Tatum	Lord Have Mercy "Lord Have Mercy" by "James Tatum"	Contemporary Jazz Mass	Jazzman	1:54:48 (Pop-up)
Frank London	Golem Khosidl "Golem Khosidl" by "Frank London"	Scientist at Work	Tzadik	2:01:04 (Pop-up)
Prince	The Rainbow Children "The Rainbow Children" by "Prince"	The Rainbow Children	NPG	2:08:51 (Pop-up)
Cracow Klezmer Band	Dim'ot Yisrael	Bereshit	Tzadik	2:17:58 (Pop-up)
Madison County Senior Center Singers	Wasn't That a Mystery	Fire in My Bones: Raw, Rare & Otherworldly African-American Gospel, 1944-2007	Tompkins Square	2:23:43 (Pop-up)
Cantor Berele Chagy	Refoeinu "Refoeinu" by "Cantor Berele Chagy"	Masterworks of the Great Cantors	The Great Recording Co	2:26:55 (Pop-up)

Bob Dylan	Ain't Gonna Go to Hell for Anybody (Live, April 24, 1980)	Trouble No More (1979-1981) (The Bootleg Series, v. 13)	Columbia	2:37:00 (Pop-up)
Washington Phillips	What Are They Doing In Heaven Today?	Washington Phillips and His Manzarene Dreams	Dust-to-Digital	2:40:29 (Pop-up)
Anthony Coleman	Belz "Belz" by "Anthony Coleman"	Sephardic Tinge	Tzadik	2:43:18 (Pop-up)
Kokū Nishimura	Kyō Chōshi 京調子	Kyotaku		2:47:31 (Pop-up)
Bo'da Manam	Waudang 2 "Waudang 2" by "Bo'da Manam"	Sacred Flute Music from New Guinea: Madang / Windim Mambu	Ideologic Organ	2:53:29 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:15pm chresti: Hello divine horse!
	9:19pm Chris: Haha Kanye West certainly does have so eccentricities that are troubling. I didn’t know Allen Ginsburg made music. How interesting. I have made the Milton Friedman choir my college’s theme song (except nobody knows this)
	9:21pm Sam Segal: Holy Chresti!
	9:24pm Sam Segal: @Chris: That Minton Friedman choir song is just eerie enough to be the perfect college fight song! Allen Ginsberg didn't make a ton of music but the stuff he did put out is fantastic.
	9:26pm Dean: Sequentia, "Plebs Domini," the apotheosis of religious music. I promise. It is stunning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86eJ6ptzkSs
	9:26pm Sam Segal: Thanks, Dean! I'll check it out.
	9:27pm Chris: Yeah that was a fabulous song. I think he spent a lot of his later years in the Pacific Northwest
	9:30pm Franco Twinkie: I don't know what to make of this Kanye Business. To say I'm skeptical of him elevating himself to such an exalted position is besides the point. He's a nut of out sized proportions, which I guess is perfect for todays mixed up and frightening America. Ultimately who cares? No one I talk to. Bah! more baloney for a world that gorges on all kinds of junk food.
	9:31pm Dean: My take is Kanye is pretty much untalented, which is OK. Same goes for Puff Daddy, a bunch of those guys. Good on them for trying, but I'm not impressed.
	9:32pm Chris: Thanks for the Beck recommendation Franco. I didn’t know he had such a distinct sound. Was rocking out to it last week. Thanks for the entertainment Sam. I gotta run can’t study and enjoy the show together. Happy Halloween!
	9:33pm Sam Segal: I came of age during peak Kanye hype, and I will never not see him as one of the greats, but I have no way of knowing whether that's completely deluded or not. Hell, it probably is. But I am okay with that!
	9:34pm Franco Twinkie: You're welcome Chris.
	9:35pm northguineahills: I remember when a coworker gave me Kanye's College Dropout to listen to. It check off all of the boxes of what should be good poppy hiphop, but it didn't do anything for me...
	9:35pm Dean: Yes. It is deluded. For that matter, Beck. Really? Granted, I avoided his work, nevertheless I heard it because somebody played it. He did what?
	9:38pm Sam Segal: @NGH, may I suggest trying some of his more idiosyncratic work? Yeezus or 808s & Heartbreak. Both masterpieces to me.
	9:40pm Franco Twinkie: Well Dean, One mans baloney is another fellows Zankou Chicken.
	9:43pm Dean: You can't get more tautological than that.
	9:50pm chresti: diluted
	9:57pm Franco Twinkie: Speaking of the same damn thing, Dean. Chresti just gave me a gluten free rice cracker that tasted just like a communion wafer, and I liked it! Unlike the real deal, which I would hold in my mouth until I could spit it under the pew, I swallowed It!
	10:00pm chresti: Beck has some good dance numbers.
	10:02pm Sam Segal: I always loved this ballad by Beck called "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime." Only thing of his I ever really got into. Speaking of religion, Beck's one of indie rock's favorite Scientologists!
	10:02pm chresti: Haven't heard much Kanye music
	10:05pm Sam Segal: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy would be the best place to start, Chresti.
	10:05pm chresti: Do you think that most famous musicians have large heads? Or maybe it's small bodies?
	10:05pm Franco Twinkie: Sam, That is probably true, which makes you wonder, buT unlike Kanye West, he keeps his goddamned mouth shut about it.
	10:09pm Sam Segal: A Scientology turn for Kanye certainly seems within the realm of possibility.
	10:10pm coelacanth∅: greetings Sam and exalted horse-people
	10:11pm Sam Segal: Brother Coel! Welcome!
	10:16pm John from Florham park: @Chestri your lucky you do not listen to Kanye music I for one think he sucks
	10:20pm Sam Segal: Folks, I understand not liking Kanye West's music. I do. If his music weren't so good, I'd be right there with you! John, hello!
	10:21pm chresti: I don't agree @John from FP
	10:21pm Franco Twinkie: Regarding Carlos Santana and his spiritual preoccupations, Way,way back in the way back, a friend of mine worked at this place in San Francisco that sold and serviced old jukeboxes. Carlos came in and bought a particularly classy box for his beloved collection of 45's. When it was delivered to Chez Santana, one of his religious minders fell on the floor at begged him to return this worldly appliance to the heathens who sold it to him. Carlos blithely ignored him I was told.
	10:23pm Sam Segal: Oh man, that's a hell of an anecdote, Franco. Way to have some backbone, Santana!
	10:24pm Franco Twinkie: He wears some funny hats, but the dude is a stone rocker!
	10:28pm coelacanth∅: what sort of religion or spiritual idea does Carlos Santana relate to that one of his "religious minders" might freak out over a beautiful old piece of history and function in the form of a jukebox?
	10:29pm Dean: In short, I blame Steely Dan. They opened the door to mediocrity, by which I mean, inter alia, Kanye and most lazy-ass male rappers, Sea & Cake, Tortoise, bands that assume their precious observations are sufficient...bland music that says much but doesn't do much.
	10:30pm Franco Twinkie: You got me on that one, Coel.
	10:31pm Sam Segal: Kanye did flip a great Steely Dan sample, but that's the first time I've heard him brought up in the same breath as Tortoise. Talk about a dream collaboration!
	10:32pm still b/p: Remember when Jesus drove the record-changers out of the temple?
	10:37pm chresti: Haha still b/p
	10:37pm coelacanth∅: well yeah s b/p but that's just cuz he was all hopped up on his new dat deck.
	10:38pm Carmichael: Heya Sam and others.
	10:39pm Franco Twinkie: Dean, you crack me up! Once again you're just lobbing spit balls from the back of the class room, and you don't care who you hit just as long as you get someone to react. I admire your persistence.
	10:40pm coelacanth∅: hahaha
	10:40pm Dean: You're right, Franco, except for the fact that I'm aiming quite precisely.
	10:42pm coelacanth∅: i used to be a pretty good shot with the spitballs...except i thought it was gross so i chose my targets with purpose.
	10:43pm coelacanth∅: (...that's not a commentary on Dean's spitfire, in case it seems so)
	10:44pm Carmichael: @dean, “the royal scam”.
	10:44pm chresti: I don't think I ever heard the rapping Tortoise
	10:44pm Franco Twinkie: I would just mouth off until some one laughed. It worked about 12% of the time.
	10:45pm coelacanth∅: what is this "tortoise"? and do i actually need to know?
	10:46pm coelacanth∅: 12% is not very good, Franco
	10:46pm chresti: Some vapid rapper?
	10:48pm chresti: A vapid rapper named Tortoise, that is?
	10:48pm still b/p: Vapid Rapper...now, that's a superhero from which outfit, Marvel or DC?
	10:49pm Dean: Royal Scam, yep. That's the only SD album I own, and I play it now and then, knowing that it will haunt me. "Kid Charlemagne," in particular, gives me endless nightmares. Tortoise is one of those dull Chicago bands that makes me weep every time I have to go to Chicago. Other than Provo, UT, it's the most boring town in America.
	10:49pm coelacanth∅: or a lame pop act with a hint of "jazz"? either way i think i'm all set.
	10:49pm chresti: I have my spitball shield on and am heading to bed, thanks Sam!
	10:50pm coelacanth∅: somebody get her on the way out!
	10:50pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Chresti!
	10:51pm coelacanth∅: oh, i mean g'night chresti!
	10:52pm northguineahills: Alice!
	10:53pm coelacanth∅: i have several steely dan albums. but the only ones that have gotten played more than once in the last 35 years are pretzel logic and parts of can't buy a thrill.
	10:54pm Carmichael: Alice, Alice, who the f*ck is Alice!
	10:55pm Franco Twinkie: Coel, Even as loudmouth, I was a failure. Thank god for the vocational arts.
	10:55pm coelacanth∅: (i mean the other way 'round. all of can't buy a thrill and some of pretzel logic)
	10:56pm coelacanth∅: Carm just some chick that all the young girls love.
	10:56pm Sam Segal: Alice doesn't live here anymore, Carm!
	10:56pm Dean: That's Steely Dan for you. Some of this, or maybe all? Or maybe some? They should have quit while they were ahead...except they were never ahead.
	10:57pm still b/p: But ya gots to play Katy Lied while driving to sing along with Dr. Wu....right?
	10:58pm Carmichael: If you’ve heard the Smokie song Living Next Door to Alice, that’s the popular pub refrain.
	11:00pm Sam Segal: Doesn't get much better than Dr. Wu down the 405, SBP (to be clear, I am not speaking from experience),
	11:02pm still b/p: 405 all smoky hot just now.
	11:03pm coelacanth∅: when steely dan was "relevant"(?) -the 70s- they were a group that young music lovers could listen to and whereby claim some level of sophistication beyond what was standard fare for most of the other high school students. partly because of the production, arrangements and execution; not necessarily so much the compositions themselves.
	11:05pm coelacanth∅: i'm not suggesting they actually were more sophisticated than, say black sabbath or marshall tucker band; though i'm not saying they weren't...
	11:06pm coelacanth∅: (-led zeppelin or grateful dead, etc.)
	11:07pm Carmichael: @coel, they weren’t ...
	11:15pm Dean: coelacanth, you are exactly right, except that I question whether their production, arrangements, or execution actually amounted to much. I believe the band wanted to excel at boredom, and they most certainly did.
	11:16pm northguineahills: I saw someone online poo-pooing Prince's music as mediocre pop music, today. I think I sprained my brain reading it....
	11:18pm Dean: No comment.
	11:18pm Sam Segal: Blasphemy, NGH!
	11:18pm Sam Segal: Dean, I had a feeling you might be heading in that direction...no comment!
	11:22pm coelacanth∅: i always got a bit bored when someone would put a steely dan album on, back in the day. i really liked some songs though. i enjoyed it when we were stoned. i do think the production was good; and they were no more boring than the 'dead in the 70s, which also required the effects of cannabis for enjoyment.
	11:28pm coelacanth∅: ...but my comment at 11.03 is based on it's relation to other music teenagers in the 70s were mostly listening to. i was also listening to prog, which is obviously more sophisticated (in general) but i wouldn't compare it to that. my use of the word "sophisticated" (@11.03) should not be taken as my opinion or my terminology.
	11:30pm Franco Twinkie: Okay, I just had a hot shower and I'm ready to kick a dead dog. I think I booted all my Steely Dan records in the late 70's so I could pay the rent. But unlike a lot of stuff I should have kept, I don't miss them. To me, they were like a carton of sour milk - It's not going to turn into cheese if you keep it around, It's just going to continue to stink.
	11:33pm coelacanth∅: yeah i probably wont be keeping my steely dan albums if i get around to parting company with my records before i die. some of them are near mint too, as i didn't play them much.
	11:34pm coelacanth∅: (even though i don't think they all totally stink)
	11:38pm Franco Twinkie: No they don't, but music stops been meaningful. I liked a lot of bands that don't mean a goddamned thing to me anymore.
	11:41pm coelacanth∅: Franco, true, and same here
	11:52pm northguineahills: Digging this Nishimura, thanks Sam and everyones, night!
	11:54pm Sam Segal: Cheers, NGH! Thanks for hanging out.
	11:55pm Franco Twinkie: We are rounding the corner and I am ready to be flat and unconscious. All the sparring made me quite happy. Thanks guys.
	11:56pm northguineahills: this music may be relevant to my interests....
	11:58pm Sam Segal: Thanks for sticking around and jousting, Franco!
	11:59pm coelacanth∅: hey Sam 'you know there's someone (i shan't name) on the new jungle room stream that uses this same bed music?
	12:01am coelacanth∅: Thanks Sam! good night everyone take care
	12:02am Sam Segal: Ha! I had no idea. It does have the perfect elevator music vibe I'm going for, so I am not surprised someone else is hip to it.
	12:02am coelacanth∅: that's kind of what he said!

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from October 28, 2019

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