WFMU: Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from April 16, 2025

Listener comments!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 4/15 7:02pm Listener Gregory: WFMU, playing all AEC, all the time.
	♥ 8:59pm Gary: I don't dislike that idea
	🇰🇷 ♥ 6:19pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:02 Note: I left that comment yesterday because I was so excited about this show... NOT because I was confused about what day it was and then became puzzled when Gary's show was not actually on. Obviously.
	♥ 6:21pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @6:19 We believe you for a second, Gregory!
	6:55pm pot8o (on public computer): hi everyone!
	♥ 6:56pm Gary: Pot8o!
	6:59pm tim abdellah: Oh this is gonna be good! Hi Gary and Bodega Ensemble of the Interwebs!
	♥ 7:00pm Gary: Tim!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:02pm chresti: Hi Gary bodega show!
	7:02pm mic_a: Hello Gary and bopos! Listener Gregory, I share your overexcitement -- ooooh, this episode is so up my alley. And I'll have to step away for a chunk of it (you'll find me in the archives tomorrow). Several years back, I went on a binge on these guys, assembling the half-decent overview I should have accumulated over the previous decades. 1969? France? Yes, please.
	7:02pm BODEGA: A place to buy beer and cigarettes. Usually has a cat.
	♥ 7:03pm Michael 98145: All that jazz! Hellos, Everyone.
	♥ 7:03pm tom tom the pipers son: hello gary et al…. in intro…”a bag of twinkies” …twinkies come in a box, but something about “a bag of twinkies” that resonates more
	♥ 7:04pm Jeff Golick: ROCK OUT!
	7:05pm mic_a: Prototyping no wave years and years ahead. I knew about them, and heard some things, for those decades. I just never snagged any of it.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:05pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Rock Out" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" Yowza
	♥ 7:06pm Gary: Chresti, Mic_a, BODEGA, Michael, TomTom, JEFF!!!
	7:06pm Listener Gregory: I remember twinkies coming in a plasticine bag, two to the bag. No?
	♥ 7:06pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @7:05 second dat...
	7:06pm mic_a: A very good book: "Message To Our Folks" by Paul Steinbeck. Has the expected history, but also goes deep into their working methods and includes detailed analysis of three of their albums. Maybe too detailed for some... music notation and everything, no foolin' around. https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/M/bo25125876.html
	♥ 7:07pm Michael 98145: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:06 Yes
	♥ 7:07pm Gary: ↳ mic_a @7:06 Oooh, nice -- than you, mic_a!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:07pm wimpy: Oh awesome, these guys are one of my favorite groups. Hoping BYG Charly gets around to reissuing Reese and the Smooth Ones soon. Seems like whoever got the rights to their catalog has a bit of a gong obsession lol
	♥ 7:07pm Gary: Wimpy!
	♥ 7:09pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:06 yes that’s true, but really more a “pack” or “package” of twinkies… a ‘bag' of twinkies creates a darker, sort of illegal image… like loot ...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:09pm Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Greets Gary, fellow Bodega Cats!!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:09pm Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Just a little bit more work to go...
	♥ 7:09pm Gary: Threemoons!
	♥ 7:10pm northguineahills: Gaaaaarrrrrryyyyyy!!!!!
	♥ 7:10pm Gary: NGH!
	♥ 7:11pm Jeff Golick: ↳ Song: "Rock Out" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" Mats Gustafsson's AALY Trio covers Rock Out on a record they released just last year.
	♥ 7:11pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:06 and plasticine is an artificial clay product… that might be appropriate for encasing twinkies...
	7:12pm pot8o (on public computer): is it true that twinkies can last decades without spoiling?
	♥ 7:13pm coelacanth∅: good evening Gary, bodeghisattvas
	♥ 7:13pm Gary: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:11 Oh my goodness, I gotta hear that, thank you Jeff!
	♥ 7:14pm Gary: Coelacanth!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:14pm WR: Hello Gary and folks, will be listening as I go to my local grocery.
	♥ 7:15pm tom tom the pipers son: The Reality Twinkies do in fact contain real food, they are truly baked, and the official shelf life is a mere 25 days. After this time, the Twinkie will continue to exist but will diminish greatly in taste and texture. It is true that 25 days is a considerably longer shelf life than most baked goods, but this is achieved by avoiding the use of dairy products and the air-tight cellophane wrapper. Rather than being made with real cream, the vanilla cream filling in Twinkies is made with shortening, sugar, eggs, flavoring, and stabilizers, which spoil at a much slower rate.
	♥ 7:15pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:09 those special twinkies came in bags.
	♥ 7:16pm Jeff Golick: ↳ Gary @7:13 I will happily share with you. It doesn't quite live up to one's expectations.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:16pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Reese and the Smooth Ones Part 1" by "Art Ensembl... Love this! (have most of AEoC's stuff, but don't know this...)
	7:16pm mic_a: I don't know what you can find now, but last decade I found a surprising quantity of AEC live video shows on the Y-Tube. Mostly shot for European tv, I would imagine. My favorite was a set from Hamburg somewhere in the 1980s, I think. Just amazing. One section sounded (to my fevered imagination) like a field recording of a Southeast Asian dockside market. But yeah, see what you can find nowadays.
	♥ 7:16pm Michael 98145: I'm lacking my minimum daily dose of stabilizers
	♥ 7:18pm Gary: Dr. Jazz!
	♥ 7:20pm Juli P: Hi.
	♥ 7:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Reese and the Smooth Ones Part 1" by "Art Ensembl... this does not “swing”…..not jazz…post jazz…still jazz? i can’t really figure how/ where the art ensemble hatch from…. obviously the free idiom of the 60’s but i wonder if they are picking up influenctes from elsewhere or re envisioning the earliest jazz forms
	7:22pm Listener Gregory: From the latest Aaly Trio album (notes by Ken Vandermark): ‘AALY Trio, named after the piece “Lebert Aaly... dedicated to Albert Ayler” by the Art Ensemble of Chicago from their album, Phase One on the America label, released during 1971.’ See how it all comes around?
	7:22pm pot8o (on public computer): will say, it was a real shocker when i dropped the needle on bap-tizum for the first time after having only listened to theme de yoyo
	♥ 7:24pm Juli P: I need more friends.
	♥ 7:25pm Gary: Juli P!
	♥ 7:25pm Jeff Golick: ↳ mic_a @7:06 Thanks for the Steinbeck book rec, mic_a. Have you read the George Lewis book on the whole AACM megilla?
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:34pm mackeral: whastup everbuddy
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:35pm mackeral: aw man, what a great idea for a show! And this is free?
	♥ 7:35pm Gary: Mackeral! Free to be u n me
	♥ 7:35pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:15 different from a “bag ‘o chips"
	♥ 7:39pm tom tom the pipers son: if you make a painting analogy that free jazz is to impressionism then i’d say art ensemble is analogous to post impressionism
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:39pm doctorjazz: No Lester Bowie in a Lab coat in the picture, looks like (I assume Bowie is holding the trumpet...)
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:43pm wimpy: Never heard this. This early period with no drummer is their peak imo
	7:43pm mic_a: @Jeff - Big yes to the George Lewis book! Such a remarkable organization. And Toro is one of my favorites.
	7:43pm ?: @mackeral: Do you recall meeting Bowie's widow at the house concert at Harry's? Still amazes me.
	7:44pm ?=Dean: ^up there
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:45pm doctorjazz: I know ECM AAC best (did get to see the band in NYC back in the day-also a set by Lester Bowie's group at the old Tin Palace)
	♥ 7:45pm Gary: Dean!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:46pm mackeral: ↳ @7:43 yeah! That was such a pleasant afternoon.
	7:47pm Dean: Gary, I think your grand prize for one show during the marathon was the 3LP cLOUDDEAD set? I received it yesterday. It's a doozy, love it.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:48pm Ike: Holy cannoli.
	♥ 7:48pm Gary: ↳ Dean @7:47 Oh my goodness, yes! Congrats on winning that, and that was the show Jeff did with me, so we've come full circus here!
	♥ 7:48pm Gary: Ike!
	7:50pm mic_a: For me, the 'thing' with the AEC is... as brilliant as they were as individuals, when they found each other, their singular chemistry unleashed amazing forces. Talk about "a power stronger than itself."
	7:50pm pot8o (on public computer): ↳ Song: "Tutankhamun" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" love bowed double bass
	♥ 7:50pm tom tom the pipers son: true ensemble
	7:52pm Kat in the chat: Back from an after work walk, dinner in progress, good food for the ears on WFMU. Frustrating day morphing into pleasant evening.
	♥ 7:52pm Jeff Golick: ↳ mic_a @7:50 Agreed 100%.
	♥ 7:53pm Gary: Kat!
	♥ 7:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ mic_a @7:50 was part of the time with collaboration an collectivism in the air...
	7:54pm Kat in the chat: Gary! Artsy types!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:59pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:39 Also, there are only four in the photo, when there should be five, no? Maybe the fifth is taking the picture.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:00pm wimpy: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:59 Nah not at the time. They didn’t get a drummer until sometime in the 70s
	8:01pm pot8o (on public computer): ↳ Listener Gregory @7:59 don moye didn't join until 1970 iirc
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:01pm Listener Gregory: ↳ wimpy @8:00 I have some of the early albums, but I don't think I ever registered that.
	8:01pm Dean: I am encouraged that one or another variety of collectivism is on an ascent. I think it's okay for me to quote a not-yet-published work by a scholar who will appear this week on my campus. He [I'll keep him anonymous for now] writes, "There is no way to reckon with the current crisis [of liberalism] without recognizing the intellectual renaissance of Marxism among the youth today and the pertinence of class-based critiques of inequality after Thomas Piketty made the existence of the phenomenon undeniable. There is a Marxist left—and even a class-sensitive left liberalism."
	8:04pm Dean: MAL-uh-keye (rhymes with eye) And is it BOO-ee?
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:05pm wimpy: I always assumed they were basically just live recordings, since byg recorded most of their initial wave of jazz albums at a festival
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:07pm Listener Gregory: Another book that is relevant is Henry Threadgill's recent autobiography, which describes that early Chicago scene before any of these guys became famous. (It's not about the AEC in particular, though.)
	♥ 8:08pm Gary: ↳ Dean @8:04 Ah, thank you, Dean!
	8:09pm Dean: Even though you're new to AEC, Gary, I assume you're already aware of the fact that they were invited to participate in the musical portion of the 1980 movie Xanadu Unfortunately, their label at the time wouldn't permit it.
	8:12pm tim abdellah: ↳ Dean @8:09 😲
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:15pm wimpy: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:07 That does sound interesting. I really wish I could find a copy of Fred Andersen’s exercises for the creative musician but it’s eluded me so far. I might just have to drive down to Chicago some day and make photocopies of the copy they have in the library.
	8:16pm mic_a: @Gary -- You really have to see some of those old live sets. So many things would click into place for you. The theater of the live show was very essential to their work.
	8:17pm Dean: Speaking of Fred Anderson, just yesterday I listened to a recent acquisition, his Live, vol. V, from the Velvet Lounge, featuring Toshinori Kondo. Bowie's playing here brought to mind Kondo's highly processed sounds on that record, almost as if Bowie were also using electronics to treat his playing. (Is he?)
	♥ 8:17pm Gary: ↳ mic_a @8:16 Yes, I need to do some YouTubing etc.
	8:18pm Dean: Kondo at Victo with the Tentet, '98, unforgettable.
	♥ 8:20pm tom tom the pipers son: for the sake of the idea of collectivism, was reading about a story about stalin; during a purge a friend says to him, “stalin, my relatves are getting thrown in the gulag, can’t you do any thing about it?” he says "i cannot i am not stalin.”… cited as an illustration of the deluezean idea of “we"
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:21pm doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @8:17 I don't think Bowie got his sound with electronics, it's all his playing.
	8:26pm Dean: Washington U. St. Louis and U. Chicago have copies of the Anderson book of exercises: https://search.worldcat.org/title/648817627?oclcNum=648817627
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:27pm wimpy: ↳ Dean @8:26 Hey thanks, if I ever make that trip St. Louis is a lot closer
	8:27pm mic_a: Bowie pulled a lot of wild sounds out of the horn. Including that 'secret' lower octave.
	8:28pm mic_a: I've been trying to figure what that long drone sound was coming from, but I dunno. A sopranino sax with circular breathing?
	8:29pm Dean: @wimpy: If you have a local library that will make interlibrary loan requests, take that link to them and initiate the request. You'll get it, likely, in three, four weeks.
	8:29pm mic_a: Or maybe just lead weight on a cheap keyboard.
	♥ 8:30pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ mic_a @8:29 a twinkie?
	8:30pm mic_a: Hah!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:31pm wimpy: ↳ Dean @8:29 Oh sweet, thanks. I was never sure if they would since I always assumed it was ancient and valuable like an old scripture
	8:31pm mic_a: (This is a song about Roscoe's cat.)
	♥ 8:31pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:30 physically light but “heavy" in other ways
	8:32pm Dean: Always a possibility, but given that it's a 2010 second edition, not too much of a risk.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:32pm wimpy: ↳ Dean @8:32 True! Thanks again, I’ll probably actually make that request before next week’s show
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:34pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "A Jackson in Your House" by "Art Ensemble of Chic... This is GREAT! (takes inspiration from all over the musical map)
	8:34pm Dean: It'll cost you $30 to own it: https://checkout.square.site/merchant/RT3XP4PCHTCER/checkout/XHNPAE7AH375SFAIFV2SCFWY
	♥ 8:35pm tom tom the pipers son: pastich=post modernity
	♥ 8:35pm tom tom the pipers son: pastische
	8:36pm Listener Gregory: @mic_a, I think the drone came from something like bagpipes, not requiring constant breath.
	8:36pm tim abdellah: ↳ mic_a @8:31 I thought I read somewhere that Jackson was a reference to George Jackson, but this track seems so playful that the cat reference seems more likely
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:36pm wimpy: ↳ Dean @8:34 Huh, I thought I’d looked at his website in the past and remember he was sold out. Maybe I was wrong!
	♥ 8:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Comme à la radio" by "Brigitte Fontaine, Areski, ... i’d imagine that part of th circumstances led led bridgette fontaine and art ensemble to collaborate were the student movements in france and ther u.s.
	8:39pm Dean: Returning home on the bus I read passages from Roger Scruton's odd survey of Western philosophy, in which he briefly treats postmodernism. Scruton, of course, has an agenda, but it reminded me that there is no such thing as postmodernism. As a young (rather, early) law school student, I worked with an attorney who was on Angela Davis's defense team in the Soledad (i.e., Jackson) Brothers case.
	♥ 8:42pm Gary: Oddly, trumpet on this is not Lester Bowie, who's playing flute, but Wadada Leo Smith
	♥ 8:43pm tom tom the pipers son: does scruton say we are still in the modern era (who knows what we are in now) which would seem like a very reductionist idea of modernity
	8:43pm Listener Gregory: I always thought that “Jackson” was a racial term, not a positive one. But I don’t know it apart from this title.
	♥ 8:44pm Gary: Sorry, no, Roscoe Mitchell is playing flute. Lester Bowie isn't playing anything ...?
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:44pm mackeral: ↳ Dean @8:26 this Anderson book looks cool
	8:44pm Listener Gregory: This Brigitte Fontaine piece is an incredible find, Gary! Don’t give credit to Jeff or anyone for it.
	♥ 8:45pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:44 Haha
	8:46pm mic_a: Jackson -- Cat -- "Jackson In Your House" is one of the albums detailed in the mentioned book. Though I'm sure they knew they were toying with all aspects of the name.
	8:48pm Dean: Scruton on modernity was, to me, even weirder. He blames all those "rebels," who need an opponent to push up against to make their case. That's Modernism?! I don't think so.
	8:48pm pot8o (on public computer): ↳ Listener Gregory @8:43 i assumed they were referring to money, i've heard $20 bills be called "jacksons" before
	8:50pm Dean: I say that we are indeed still in the modern era and, moreover, we have always been in the modern era.
	8:50pm Carmichael: Heya Gary and taxpayers
	♥ 8:51pm Gary: Carmichael!
	♥ 8:51pm tom tom the pipers son: i say we are in the hamster wheel era….
	8:52pm Listener Gregory: A good title is open to multiple meanings. You may quote me!
	♥ 8:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:51 with an ever present ‘now’ and an illusion of moving forward
	8:55pm Dean: Today, a young adult where I worked referred to me as "OG." I am both proud and humbled.
	♥ 8:56pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:53 i remember people 40 years ago calling then the "current era", but yet i've heard people call the present that too. . .
	♥ 8:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:53 as evidenced by people scrolling on their phones
	♥ 8:58pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:56 oh, maybe this is the zombie era
	♥ 8:59pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:58 …bbbrrraaainnns…..
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:08pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Old Time Religion" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" This is good enough for me.
	♥ 9:10pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:08 you should base a song on that
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:11pm WR: ↳ Song: "Tutankhamun" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" Lester Bowie is credited on this '74 release of the album. www.discogs.com...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:11pm mackeral: ↳ Song: "Old Time Religion" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" this is so good
	9:12pm Mike W.: Got here!
	9:12pm Kat in the chat: Amen indeed
	♥ 9:14pm Gary: Mike W! WR! I missed you before I think
	9:16pm ?: Im late. I once made tira misu out of twinkies (they came in a box that had individually wrapped twinkies in plastic, not plasticine, gross) the rest was classic mascarpone and kahlua, tia maria, espresso. Served it to foodies who work in fancy restaurants. no one noticed, and they ate it all. After, I told them it was Twinkie Misu
	♥ 9:18pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ @9:16 hi newton… twinkie redeemer
	♥ 9:19pm Gary: Welcome, anonymous!
	9:21pm Dean: Tiramisu with Twinkies! Brilliant!
	9:23pm Dean: Don't get cocky, ?. Any ordinary Italian grandmother would have slapped you.
	9:24pm ?: it really was delicious, on many levels, and impishly fun to make!
	♥ 9:28pm tom tom the pipers son: before i was making some chicken breast i ate a bag of doritos ranch in desperate hunger and thought {crush the doritos and bread the chicken}…maybe next time
	9:30pm Dean: Go for it, tttps. Those experiments often realize benefits.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:34pm chresti: Did they like it or politely excuse themselves to vomit?
	♥ 9:34pm tom tom the pipers son: i was too hungry, and didn’t have milk or eggs… in trader joe’s today there was a special line inside the store to get eggs… maybe they were getting rationed
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:35pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "The Ninth Room" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" It may have been songs like this that convinced the group that it would benefit from a drummer.
	♥ 9:36pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @9:34 the concept might be abhorrent to you but apparently the real thing was quite tasty
	♥ 9:37pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "A Brain for the Seine" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" reminding me of this heat
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:38pm chresti: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:35 I liked the base part
	♥ 9:38pm tom tom the pipers son: excepting the horn
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:39pm chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:36 I'm not too proud to open a can of cheater sauce.
	♥ 9:40pm tom tom the pipers son: you mean like ragu?
	9:42pm Dean: It's not about pride. It's about trying different approaches. @chresti: Will you make it to Papa Cristo's before they close? I'm tempted to fly down.
	♥ 9:42pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @9:39 oh and tell franco i say congrats on his lcd page… is he happy about it
	♥ 9:42pm Gary: Stick around after tonight's what with the jazziness for Sam Segal's always-already jazz+ If You Lose Your Horse! Tonight's episode: "Shaggy Horses Trot Away From the Train" wfmu.org...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:44pm chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:40 stewed tomatoes, bone broth, what have you mushroom bullion cube
	9:44pm mic_a: Ah well, and off I go before the end again. Thanks Gary, it's been a great mix. In later years, "Fanfare For The Warriors" is pretty essential, if you haven't gotten that one yet. Safe wishes, everyone.
	♥ 9:45pm tom tom the pipers son: hmmm making orange chicken w/ tang...
	♥ 9:45pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @9:44 oh that sounds great...
	9:46pm Dean: I'm prepping shrimp tacos with a citrusy cole slaw.
	9:46pm ?: ↳ chresti @9:44 Dado mushroom bull cubes are fantastic. I once saw the sous chef from Carbone at Raffettos buying the whole shelf on them
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:46pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "A Brain for the Seine" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" Back to the zombie theme??
	9:47pm Dean: It's brane for the zen, right?
	♥ 9:47pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @9:46 nice..
	9:47pm Dean: Or bren for the zane?
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:47pm chresti: ↳ @9:46 mmmmmm!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:48pm doctorjazz: Had to leave, back for the finale.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:49pm chresti: ↳ doctorjazz @9:48 Yes!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:49pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @9:48 You missed the critical plot twist!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:50pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:49 Always feel like I came in late...
	♥ 9:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "A Brain for the Seine" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" enjoying the vibe playing especially.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:54pm doctorjazz: Just made a batch of chicken matzoh ball soup, should hold us a couple of days...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:55pm doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:53 Sounds (to me) more like a marimba (wouldn't swear to it though)
	♥ 9:55pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks gary… gotta put the tilapia in the pan...
	♥ 9:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @9:55 could be.. it was pitched that way
	9:56pm tim abdellah: Fantastic show Gary! Happy trails/bon appetit everyone!
	♥ 9:57pm Gary: Night Tom and Tim!
	9:57pm Dean: Marvelous, that three hours of AEC from but one year of their catalog ends up like ten minutes of sampling their work. Thanks, Gary.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:57pm chresti: A brane for the sane
	9:58pm Dean: Insane in the membrane
	9:58pm pot8o (on public computer): thanks gary! have a great week everyone!
	10:00pm Listener Gregory: Thanks, Gary! Great show. I hope everyone outlasts the zombies.
	♥ 10:00pm Gary: Night, everyone!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 10:00pm WR: Thank you! Gary!
	10:00pm rw: Thanks Gary!
	♥ 10:02pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Gary! -enjoy your week away! (or: if it's not for enjoyable reason i wish you the best) tchau
	🇰🇷 ♥ 10:11pm chresti: Thanks Gary!
	♥ 5:11am hyde: this looks killer, gonna listen after the fact. sorry i go to bed too early these days to hang out!
	11:39am mic_a: A late posting of a few of those live shows I was mentioning... Hamburg, 1991: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll-4mbFekYc Jazz Showcase, 1981: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xRgFnxqOJo Berlin, 1991: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOEe_hG6mio Montreux, 1974 (w/ Muhal Richard Abrams. I haven't fully verified it, but this seems to be the same show as on the album "Kabalaba"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEMS0aKhCXw And a little French TV studio thing from 1970! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQppbyArI5M

Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from April 16, 2025

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April 16, 2025: Art Ensemble of Chicago 1969
Three glorious hours of nuthin but tracks recorded and/or released in 1969 by our favorite jazz "unit"

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Artist	Track	Album	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Music behind DJ: Bodega Pop	Introduction "Introduction" by "Bodega Pop"	Bodega Pop	2025		0:00:00 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	Rock Out "Rock Out" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago"	Message to Our Folks	1969		0:04:02 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	Reese and the Smooth Ones Part 1	Reese and the Smooth Ones	1969		0:12:42 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	Toro "Toro" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago"	The Spiritual	1969	Wikipedia cites this as a 1969 LP, Discogs version is later. However, the recording itself is from 1969	0:32:37 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	Tutankhamun	Tutankhamun	1969	Wikipedia cites this as a 1969 LP, Discogs version is later. However, the recording itself is from 1969	0:41:11 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Gene Russell	Black Orchid "Black Orchid" by "Gene Russell"	Black Jazz Records: The Complete Singles	2023		0:59:05 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	People in Sorrow Part 2	People in Sorrow	1969		1:07:08 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	A Jackson in Your House	A Jackson in Your House	1969		1:30:28 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Brigitte Fontaine, Areski, and Art Ensemble of Chicago	Comme à la radio	Comme à la radio	1969		1:35:59 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	Dexterity	Message to Our Folks	1969		1:44:34 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	Get in Line	A Jackson in Your House	1969		1:48:29 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	Tthinitthedalen: Part I	Tutankhamun	1969	Not on the OG LP but on my recent-ish reissue	1:54:04 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	Tthinitthedalen: Part 2	Tutankhamun	1969	Not on the OG LP but on my recent-ish reissue	1:58:20 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Rudolph Johnson	Mr. TJ (Single Edit)	Black Jazz Records: The Complete Singles	2023		2:03:03 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	Old Time Religion	Message to Our Folks	1969		2:07:56 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Brigitte Fontaine, Areski avec Art Ensemble Of Chicago	L'Été L'Été	Comme à la Radio	1969		2:15:35 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	The Walz "The Walz" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago"	A Jackson in Your House	1969		2:19:18 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	The Ninth Room	Tutankhamun	1969		2:20:27 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Art Ensemble of Chicago	A Brain for the Seine	Message to Our Folks	1969		2:35:53 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Brigitte Fontaine, Areski avec Art Ensemble Of Chicago	Tanka II	Comme a la Radio	1969		2:56:22 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Catrina Paslaru	Hei La Bodega "Hei La Bodega" by "Catrina Paslaru"	Hei La Bodega - Carnaval!	2000		2:58:20 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 4/15 7:02pm Listener Gregory: WFMU, playing all AEC, all the time.
	♥ 8:59pm Gary: I don't dislike that idea
	🇰🇷 ♥ 6:19pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:02 Note: I left that comment yesterday because I was so excited about this show... NOT because I was confused about what day it was and then became puzzled when Gary's show was not actually on. Obviously.
	♥ 6:21pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @6:19 We believe you for a second, Gregory!
	6:55pm pot8o (on public computer): hi everyone!
	♥ 6:56pm Gary: Pot8o!
	6:59pm tim abdellah: Oh this is gonna be good! Hi Gary and Bodega Ensemble of the Interwebs!
	♥ 7:00pm Gary: Tim!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:02pm chresti: Hi Gary bodega show!
	7:02pm mic_a: Hello Gary and bopos! Listener Gregory, I share your overexcitement -- ooooh, this episode is so up my alley. And I'll have to step away for a chunk of it (you'll find me in the archives tomorrow). Several years back, I went on a binge on these guys, assembling the half-decent overview I should have accumulated over the previous decades. 1969? France? Yes, please.
	7:02pm BODEGA: A place to buy beer and cigarettes. Usually has a cat.
	♥ 7:03pm Michael 98145: All that jazz! Hellos, Everyone.
	♥ 7:03pm tom tom the pipers son: hello gary et al…. in intro…”a bag of twinkies” …twinkies come in a box, but something about “a bag of twinkies” that resonates more
	♥ 7:04pm Jeff Golick: ROCK OUT!
	7:05pm mic_a: Prototyping no wave years and years ahead. I knew about them, and heard some things, for those decades. I just never snagged any of it.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:05pm chresti: ↳ Song: "Rock Out" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" Yowza
	♥ 7:06pm Gary: Chresti, Mic_a, BODEGA, Michael, TomTom, JEFF!!!
	7:06pm Listener Gregory: I remember twinkies coming in a plasticine bag, two to the bag. No?
	♥ 7:06pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @7:05 second dat...
	7:06pm mic_a: A very good book: "Message To Our Folks" by Paul Steinbeck. Has the expected history, but also goes deep into their working methods and includes detailed analysis of three of their albums. Maybe too detailed for some... music notation and everything, no foolin' around. https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/M/bo25125876.html
	♥ 7:07pm Michael 98145: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:06 Yes
	♥ 7:07pm Gary: ↳ mic_a @7:06 Oooh, nice -- than you, mic_a!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:07pm wimpy: Oh awesome, these guys are one of my favorite groups. Hoping BYG Charly gets around to reissuing Reese and the Smooth Ones soon. Seems like whoever got the rights to their catalog has a bit of a gong obsession lol
	♥ 7:07pm Gary: Wimpy!
	♥ 7:09pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:06 yes that’s true, but really more a “pack” or “package” of twinkies… a ‘bag' of twinkies creates a darker, sort of illegal image… like loot ...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:09pm Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Greets Gary, fellow Bodega Cats!!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:09pm Threemoons 🌛🌝🌜: Just a little bit more work to go...
	♥ 7:09pm Gary: Threemoons!
	♥ 7:10pm northguineahills: Gaaaaarrrrrryyyyyy!!!!!
	♥ 7:10pm Gary: NGH!
	♥ 7:11pm Jeff Golick: ↳ Song: "Rock Out" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" Mats Gustafsson's AALY Trio covers Rock Out on a record they released just last year.
	♥ 7:11pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:06 and plasticine is an artificial clay product… that might be appropriate for encasing twinkies...
	7:12pm pot8o (on public computer): is it true that twinkies can last decades without spoiling?
	♥ 7:13pm coelacanth∅: good evening Gary, bodeghisattvas
	♥ 7:13pm Gary: ↳ Jeff Golick @7:11 Oh my goodness, I gotta hear that, thank you Jeff!
	♥ 7:14pm Gary: Coelacanth!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:14pm WR: Hello Gary and folks, will be listening as I go to my local grocery.
	♥ 7:15pm tom tom the pipers son: The Reality Twinkies do in fact contain real food, they are truly baked, and the official shelf life is a mere 25 days. After this time, the Twinkie will continue to exist but will diminish greatly in taste and texture. It is true that 25 days is a considerably longer shelf life than most baked goods, but this is achieved by avoiding the use of dairy products and the air-tight cellophane wrapper. Rather than being made with real cream, the vanilla cream filling in Twinkies is made with shortening, sugar, eggs, flavoring, and stabilizers, which spoil at a much slower rate.
	♥ 7:15pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @7:09 those special twinkies came in bags.
	♥ 7:16pm Jeff Golick: ↳ Gary @7:13 I will happily share with you. It doesn't quite live up to one's expectations.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:16pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "Reese and the Smooth Ones Part 1" by "Art Ensembl... Love this! (have most of AEoC's stuff, but don't know this...)
	7:16pm mic_a: I don't know what you can find now, but last decade I found a surprising quantity of AEC live video shows on the Y-Tube. Mostly shot for European tv, I would imagine. My favorite was a set from Hamburg somewhere in the 1980s, I think. Just amazing. One section sounded (to my fevered imagination) like a field recording of a Southeast Asian dockside market. But yeah, see what you can find nowadays.
	♥ 7:16pm Michael 98145: I'm lacking my minimum daily dose of stabilizers
	♥ 7:18pm Gary: Dr. Jazz!
	♥ 7:20pm Juli P: Hi.
	♥ 7:21pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Reese and the Smooth Ones Part 1" by "Art Ensembl... this does not “swing”…..not jazz…post jazz…still jazz? i can’t really figure how/ where the art ensemble hatch from…. obviously the free idiom of the 60’s but i wonder if they are picking up influenctes from elsewhere or re envisioning the earliest jazz forms
	7:22pm Listener Gregory: From the latest Aaly Trio album (notes by Ken Vandermark): ‘AALY Trio, named after the piece “Lebert Aaly... dedicated to Albert Ayler” by the Art Ensemble of Chicago from their album, Phase One on the America label, released during 1971.’ See how it all comes around?
	7:22pm pot8o (on public computer): will say, it was a real shocker when i dropped the needle on bap-tizum for the first time after having only listened to theme de yoyo
	♥ 7:24pm Juli P: I need more friends.
	♥ 7:25pm Gary: Juli P!
	♥ 7:25pm Jeff Golick: ↳ mic_a @7:06 Thanks for the Steinbeck book rec, mic_a. Have you read the George Lewis book on the whole AACM megilla?
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:34pm mackeral: whastup everbuddy
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:35pm mackeral: aw man, what a great idea for a show! And this is free?
	♥ 7:35pm Gary: Mackeral! Free to be u n me
	♥ 7:35pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @7:15 different from a “bag ‘o chips"
	♥ 7:39pm tom tom the pipers son: if you make a painting analogy that free jazz is to impressionism then i’d say art ensemble is analogous to post impressionism
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:39pm doctorjazz: No Lester Bowie in a Lab coat in the picture, looks like (I assume Bowie is holding the trumpet...)
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:43pm wimpy: Never heard this. This early period with no drummer is their peak imo
	7:43pm mic_a: @Jeff - Big yes to the George Lewis book! Such a remarkable organization. And Toro is one of my favorites.
	7:43pm ?: @mackeral: Do you recall meeting Bowie's widow at the house concert at Harry's? Still amazes me.
	7:44pm ?=Dean: ^up there
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:45pm doctorjazz: I know ECM AAC best (did get to see the band in NYC back in the day-also a set by Lester Bowie's group at the old Tin Palace)
	♥ 7:45pm Gary: Dean!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:46pm mackeral: ↳ @7:43 yeah! That was such a pleasant afternoon.
	7:47pm Dean: Gary, I think your grand prize for one show during the marathon was the 3LP cLOUDDEAD set? I received it yesterday. It's a doozy, love it.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:48pm Ike: Holy cannoli.
	♥ 7:48pm Gary: ↳ Dean @7:47 Oh my goodness, yes! Congrats on winning that, and that was the show Jeff did with me, so we've come full circus here!
	♥ 7:48pm Gary: Ike!
	7:50pm mic_a: For me, the 'thing' with the AEC is... as brilliant as they were as individuals, when they found each other, their singular chemistry unleashed amazing forces. Talk about "a power stronger than itself."
	7:50pm pot8o (on public computer): ↳ Song: "Tutankhamun" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" love bowed double bass
	♥ 7:50pm tom tom the pipers son: true ensemble
	7:52pm Kat in the chat: Back from an after work walk, dinner in progress, good food for the ears on WFMU. Frustrating day morphing into pleasant evening.
	♥ 7:52pm Jeff Golick: ↳ mic_a @7:50 Agreed 100%.
	♥ 7:53pm Gary: Kat!
	♥ 7:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ mic_a @7:50 was part of the time with collaboration an collectivism in the air...
	7:54pm Kat in the chat: Gary! Artsy types!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 7:59pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @7:39 Also, there are only four in the photo, when there should be five, no? Maybe the fifth is taking the picture.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:00pm wimpy: ↳ Listener Gregory @7:59 Nah not at the time. They didn’t get a drummer until sometime in the 70s
	8:01pm pot8o (on public computer): ↳ Listener Gregory @7:59 don moye didn't join until 1970 iirc
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:01pm Listener Gregory: ↳ wimpy @8:00 I have some of the early albums, but I don't think I ever registered that.
	8:01pm Dean: I am encouraged that one or another variety of collectivism is on an ascent. I think it's okay for me to quote a not-yet-published work by a scholar who will appear this week on my campus. He [I'll keep him anonymous for now] writes, "There is no way to reckon with the current crisis [of liberalism] without recognizing the intellectual renaissance of Marxism among the youth today and the pertinence of class-based critiques of inequality after Thomas Piketty made the existence of the phenomenon undeniable. There is a Marxist left—and even a class-sensitive left liberalism."
	8:04pm Dean: MAL-uh-keye (rhymes with eye) And is it BOO-ee?
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:05pm wimpy: I always assumed they were basically just live recordings, since byg recorded most of their initial wave of jazz albums at a festival
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:07pm Listener Gregory: Another book that is relevant is Henry Threadgill's recent autobiography, which describes that early Chicago scene before any of these guys became famous. (It's not about the AEC in particular, though.)
	♥ 8:08pm Gary: ↳ Dean @8:04 Ah, thank you, Dean!
	8:09pm Dean: Even though you're new to AEC, Gary, I assume you're already aware of the fact that they were invited to participate in the musical portion of the 1980 movie Xanadu Unfortunately, their label at the time wouldn't permit it.
	8:12pm tim abdellah: ↳ Dean @8:09 😲
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:15pm wimpy: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:07 That does sound interesting. I really wish I could find a copy of Fred Andersen’s exercises for the creative musician but it’s eluded me so far. I might just have to drive down to Chicago some day and make photocopies of the copy they have in the library.
	8:16pm mic_a: @Gary -- You really have to see some of those old live sets. So many things would click into place for you. The theater of the live show was very essential to their work.
	8:17pm Dean: Speaking of Fred Anderson, just yesterday I listened to a recent acquisition, his Live, vol. V, from the Velvet Lounge, featuring Toshinori Kondo. Bowie's playing here brought to mind Kondo's highly processed sounds on that record, almost as if Bowie were also using electronics to treat his playing. (Is he?)
	♥ 8:17pm Gary: ↳ mic_a @8:16 Yes, I need to do some YouTubing etc.
	8:18pm Dean: Kondo at Victo with the Tentet, '98, unforgettable.
	♥ 8:20pm tom tom the pipers son: for the sake of the idea of collectivism, was reading about a story about stalin; during a purge a friend says to him, “stalin, my relatves are getting thrown in the gulag, can’t you do any thing about it?” he says "i cannot i am not stalin.”… cited as an illustration of the deluezean idea of “we"
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:21pm doctorjazz: ↳ Dean @8:17 I don't think Bowie got his sound with electronics, it's all his playing.
	8:26pm Dean: Washington U. St. Louis and U. Chicago have copies of the Anderson book of exercises: https://search.worldcat.org/title/648817627?oclcNum=648817627
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:27pm wimpy: ↳ Dean @8:26 Hey thanks, if I ever make that trip St. Louis is a lot closer
	8:27pm mic_a: Bowie pulled a lot of wild sounds out of the horn. Including that 'secret' lower octave.
	8:28pm mic_a: I've been trying to figure what that long drone sound was coming from, but I dunno. A sopranino sax with circular breathing?
	8:29pm Dean: @wimpy: If you have a local library that will make interlibrary loan requests, take that link to them and initiate the request. You'll get it, likely, in three, four weeks.
	8:29pm mic_a: Or maybe just lead weight on a cheap keyboard.
	♥ 8:30pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ mic_a @8:29 a twinkie?
	8:30pm mic_a: Hah!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:31pm wimpy: ↳ Dean @8:29 Oh sweet, thanks. I was never sure if they would since I always assumed it was ancient and valuable like an old scripture
	8:31pm mic_a: (This is a song about Roscoe's cat.)
	♥ 8:31pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:30 physically light but “heavy" in other ways
	8:32pm Dean: Always a possibility, but given that it's a 2010 second edition, not too much of a risk.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:32pm wimpy: ↳ Dean @8:32 True! Thanks again, I’ll probably actually make that request before next week’s show
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:34pm doctorjazz: ↳ Song: "A Jackson in Your House" by "Art Ensemble of Chic... This is GREAT! (takes inspiration from all over the musical map)
	8:34pm Dean: It'll cost you $30 to own it: https://checkout.square.site/merchant/RT3XP4PCHTCER/checkout/XHNPAE7AH375SFAIFV2SCFWY
	♥ 8:35pm tom tom the pipers son: pastich=post modernity
	♥ 8:35pm tom tom the pipers son: pastische
	8:36pm Listener Gregory: @mic_a, I think the drone came from something like bagpipes, not requiring constant breath.
	8:36pm tim abdellah: ↳ mic_a @8:31 I thought I read somewhere that Jackson was a reference to George Jackson, but this track seems so playful that the cat reference seems more likely
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:36pm wimpy: ↳ Dean @8:34 Huh, I thought I’d looked at his website in the past and remember he was sold out. Maybe I was wrong!
	♥ 8:39pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "Comme à la radio" by "Brigitte Fontaine, Areski, ... i’d imagine that part of th circumstances led led bridgette fontaine and art ensemble to collaborate were the student movements in france and ther u.s.
	8:39pm Dean: Returning home on the bus I read passages from Roger Scruton's odd survey of Western philosophy, in which he briefly treats postmodernism. Scruton, of course, has an agenda, but it reminded me that there is no such thing as postmodernism. As a young (rather, early) law school student, I worked with an attorney who was on Angela Davis's defense team in the Soledad (i.e., Jackson) Brothers case.
	♥ 8:42pm Gary: Oddly, trumpet on this is not Lester Bowie, who's playing flute, but Wadada Leo Smith
	♥ 8:43pm tom tom the pipers son: does scruton say we are still in the modern era (who knows what we are in now) which would seem like a very reductionist idea of modernity
	8:43pm Listener Gregory: I always thought that “Jackson” was a racial term, not a positive one. But I don’t know it apart from this title.
	♥ 8:44pm Gary: Sorry, no, Roscoe Mitchell is playing flute. Lester Bowie isn't playing anything ...?
	🇰🇷 ♥ 8:44pm mackeral: ↳ Dean @8:26 this Anderson book looks cool
	8:44pm Listener Gregory: This Brigitte Fontaine piece is an incredible find, Gary! Don’t give credit to Jeff or anyone for it.
	♥ 8:45pm Gary: ↳ Listener Gregory @8:44 Haha
	8:46pm mic_a: Jackson -- Cat -- "Jackson In Your House" is one of the albums detailed in the mentioned book. Though I'm sure they knew they were toying with all aspects of the name.
	8:48pm Dean: Scruton on modernity was, to me, even weirder. He blames all those "rebels," who need an opponent to push up against to make their case. That's Modernism?! I don't think so.
	8:48pm pot8o (on public computer): ↳ Listener Gregory @8:43 i assumed they were referring to money, i've heard $20 bills be called "jacksons" before
	8:50pm Dean: I say that we are indeed still in the modern era and, moreover, we have always been in the modern era.
	8:50pm Carmichael: Heya Gary and taxpayers
	♥ 8:51pm Gary: Carmichael!
	♥ 8:51pm tom tom the pipers son: i say we are in the hamster wheel era….
	8:52pm Listener Gregory: A good title is open to multiple meanings. You may quote me!
	♥ 8:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:51 with an ever present ‘now’ and an illusion of moving forward
	8:55pm Dean: Today, a young adult where I worked referred to me as "OG." I am both proud and humbled.
	♥ 8:56pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:53 i remember people 40 years ago calling then the "current era", but yet i've heard people call the present that too. . .
	♥ 8:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:53 as evidenced by people scrolling on their phones
	♥ 8:58pm coelacanth∅: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @8:56 oh, maybe this is the zombie era
	♥ 8:59pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ coelacanth∅ @8:58 …bbbrrraaainnns…..
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:08pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "Old Time Religion" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" This is good enough for me.
	♥ 9:10pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:08 you should base a song on that
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:11pm WR: ↳ Song: "Tutankhamun" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" Lester Bowie is credited on this '74 release of the album. www.discogs.com...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:11pm mackeral: ↳ Song: "Old Time Religion" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" this is so good
	9:12pm Mike W.: Got here!
	9:12pm Kat in the chat: Amen indeed
	♥ 9:14pm Gary: Mike W! WR! I missed you before I think
	9:16pm ?: Im late. I once made tira misu out of twinkies (they came in a box that had individually wrapped twinkies in plastic, not plasticine, gross) the rest was classic mascarpone and kahlua, tia maria, espresso. Served it to foodies who work in fancy restaurants. no one noticed, and they ate it all. After, I told them it was Twinkie Misu
	♥ 9:18pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ @9:16 hi newton… twinkie redeemer
	♥ 9:19pm Gary: Welcome, anonymous!
	9:21pm Dean: Tiramisu with Twinkies! Brilliant!
	9:23pm Dean: Don't get cocky, ?. Any ordinary Italian grandmother would have slapped you.
	9:24pm ?: it really was delicious, on many levels, and impishly fun to make!
	♥ 9:28pm tom tom the pipers son: before i was making some chicken breast i ate a bag of doritos ranch in desperate hunger and thought {crush the doritos and bread the chicken}…maybe next time
	9:30pm Dean: Go for it, tttps. Those experiments often realize benefits.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:34pm chresti: Did they like it or politely excuse themselves to vomit?
	♥ 9:34pm tom tom the pipers son: i was too hungry, and didn’t have milk or eggs… in trader joe’s today there was a special line inside the store to get eggs… maybe they were getting rationed
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:35pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "The Ninth Room" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" It may have been songs like this that convinced the group that it would benefit from a drummer.
	♥ 9:36pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @9:34 the concept might be abhorrent to you but apparently the real thing was quite tasty
	♥ 9:37pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "A Brain for the Seine" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" reminding me of this heat
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:38pm chresti: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:35 I liked the base part
	♥ 9:38pm tom tom the pipers son: excepting the horn
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:39pm chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:36 I'm not too proud to open a can of cheater sauce.
	♥ 9:40pm tom tom the pipers son: you mean like ragu?
	9:42pm Dean: It's not about pride. It's about trying different approaches. @chresti: Will you make it to Papa Cristo's before they close? I'm tempted to fly down.
	♥ 9:42pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @9:39 oh and tell franco i say congrats on his lcd page… is he happy about it
	♥ 9:42pm Gary: Stick around after tonight's what with the jazziness for Sam Segal's always-already jazz+ If You Lose Your Horse! Tonight's episode: "Shaggy Horses Trot Away From the Train" wfmu.org...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:44pm chresti: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:40 stewed tomatoes, bone broth, what have you mushroom bullion cube
	9:44pm mic_a: Ah well, and off I go before the end again. Thanks Gary, it's been a great mix. In later years, "Fanfare For The Warriors" is pretty essential, if you haven't gotten that one yet. Safe wishes, everyone.
	♥ 9:45pm tom tom the pipers son: hmmm making orange chicken w/ tang...
	♥ 9:45pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ chresti @9:44 oh that sounds great...
	9:46pm Dean: I'm prepping shrimp tacos with a citrusy cole slaw.
	9:46pm ?: ↳ chresti @9:44 Dado mushroom bull cubes are fantastic. I once saw the sous chef from Carbone at Raffettos buying the whole shelf on them
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:46pm Listener Gregory: ↳ Song: "A Brain for the Seine" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" Back to the zombie theme??
	9:47pm Dean: It's brane for the zen, right?
	♥ 9:47pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Dean @9:46 nice..
	9:47pm Dean: Or bren for the zane?
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:47pm chresti: ↳ @9:46 mmmmmm!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:48pm doctorjazz: Had to leave, back for the finale.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:49pm chresti: ↳ doctorjazz @9:48 Yes!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:49pm Listener Gregory: ↳ doctorjazz @9:48 You missed the critical plot twist!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:50pm doctorjazz: ↳ Listener Gregory @9:49 Always feel like I came in late...
	♥ 9:53pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ Song: "A Brain for the Seine" by "Art Ensemble of Chicago" enjoying the vibe playing especially.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:54pm doctorjazz: Just made a batch of chicken matzoh ball soup, should hold us a couple of days...
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:55pm doctorjazz: ↳ tom tom the pipers son @9:53 Sounds (to me) more like a marimba (wouldn't swear to it though)
	♥ 9:55pm tom tom the pipers son: thanks gary… gotta put the tilapia in the pan...
	♥ 9:56pm tom tom the pipers son: ↳ doctorjazz @9:55 could be.. it was pitched that way
	9:56pm tim abdellah: Fantastic show Gary! Happy trails/bon appetit everyone!
	♥ 9:57pm Gary: Night Tom and Tim!
	9:57pm Dean: Marvelous, that three hours of AEC from but one year of their catalog ends up like ten minutes of sampling their work. Thanks, Gary.
	🇰🇷 ♥ 9:57pm chresti: A brane for the sane
	9:58pm Dean: Insane in the membrane
	9:58pm pot8o (on public computer): thanks gary! have a great week everyone!
	10:00pm Listener Gregory: Thanks, Gary! Great show. I hope everyone outlasts the zombies.
	♥ 10:00pm Gary: Night, everyone!
	🇰🇷 ♥ 10:00pm WR: Thank you! Gary!
	10:00pm rw: Thanks Gary!
	♥ 10:02pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Gary! -enjoy your week away! (or: if it's not for enjoyable reason i wish you the best) tchau
	🇰🇷 ♥ 10:11pm chresti: Thanks Gary!
	♥ 5:11am hyde: this looks killer, gonna listen after the fact. sorry i go to bed too early these days to hang out!
	11:39am mic_a: A late posting of a few of those live shows I was mentioning... Hamburg, 1991: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll-4mbFekYc Jazz Showcase, 1981: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xRgFnxqOJo Berlin, 1991: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOEe_hG6mio Montreux, 1974 (w/ Muhal Richard Abrams. I haven't fully verified it, but this seems to be the same show as on the album "Kabalaba"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEMS0aKhCXw And a little French TV studio thing from 1970! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQppbyArI5M

Bodega Pop with Gary Sullivan: Playlist from April 16, 2025

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